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#1  Postby Regina » Oct 15, 2013 6:20 pm

http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/co ... ight_thing

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Re: School slaps teen for doing the right thing

#2  Postby Thommo » Oct 15, 2013 6:25 pm

Guilty until proven innocent, what a great stance for a school to take. Not to mention the utter inanity and moral cowardice of hiding behind the "we had no choice" stance.
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#3  Postby ramseyoptom » Oct 15, 2013 8:47 pm

What happened to the old "Rules are made for the guidance of wise men and the obedience of fools"?, reading the report she should be commended not condemned. It seems that a good dose of the old Nelsonian Blind Eye would be useful in the school and the local police.

And reading the comments section of the article Ye Gods! there are some intolerant idiots there.

I understand that a teenager who is caught drinking alcohol is guilty of an apparent "capital" crime in parts of the US. Why is this? Even the UK, which can have it's real puritanical moments over porn, doesn't goes this far, except in the outer Scottish Islands where the Wee Frees hold sway. If this young lass' school board ever came to Europe or the UK and saw teenagers in pubs they'd have a collective heart attack.
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Re: School slaps teen for doing the right thing

#4  Postby Regina » Oct 15, 2013 9:04 pm

ramseyoptom wrote:What happened to the old "Rules are made for the guidance of wise men and the obedience of fools"?, reading the report she should be commended not condemned. It seems that a good dose of the old Nelsonian Blind Eye would be useful in the school and the local police.

And reading the comments section of the article Ye Gods! there are some intolerant idiots there.

I understand that a teenager who is caught drinking alcohol is guilty of an apparent "capital" crime in parts of the US. Why is this? Even the UK, which can have it's real puritanical moments over porn, doesn't goes this far, except in the outer Scottish Islands where the Wee Frees hold sway. If this young lass' school board ever came to Europe or the UK and saw teenagers in pubs they'd have a collective heart attack.

Presumably, they need to stay sober in order to handle their guns responsibly. Or something.
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#5  Postby JVRaines » Oct 15, 2013 10:45 pm

Lousy decision on the part of the school, but why did the Coxes rush to file a lawsuit? Only makes the school dig in their heels. The school's lawyer convinced the judge that the court had no jurisdiction over disciplinary measures taken against Erin. The Coxes should have gone to the court of public opinion first.
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#6  Postby Mick » Oct 17, 2013 1:41 am

Regina wrote:http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/columnists/margery_eagan/2013/10/eagan_school_slaps_teen_for_doing_the_right_thing

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Your OP title is misleading. The school didn't 'slap' her for the right thing. It 'slapped' her for doing something they believe to be the bad thing. Your title suggests the school understood it as the right thing and then 'slapped' her for it.
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#7  Postby Regina » Oct 17, 2013 7:34 am

Mick wrote:
Regina wrote:http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/columnists/margery_eagan/2013/10/eagan_school_slaps_teen_for_doing_the_right_thing

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Your OP title is misleading. The school didn't 'slap' her for the right thing. It 'slapped' her for doing something they believe to be the bad thing. Your title suggests the school understood it as the right thing and then 'slapped' her for it.

It is the Boston Herald"s title, which I linked to. It's not really surprising that news outfits mix the reporting of facts and giving an opinion.
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#8  Postby pcCoder » Oct 17, 2013 2:31 pm

If the article is accurate, then she did the "right" thing. She didn't drink, but was going to pick up someone who was drinking so they would not attempt to drive. Of course the arbitrary way of punishing people sends mixed signals, and I agree with the article, if it is accurate, that it sends the signal that you should not help people not drive while intoxicated, because you can get punished for that. Yay for the insanity.
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#9  Postby Regina » Oct 17, 2013 2:41 pm

pcCoder wrote:If the article is accurate, then she did the "right" thing. She didn't drink, but was going to pick up someone who was drinking so they would not attempt to drive. Of course the arbitrary way of punishing people sends mixed signals, and I agree with the article, if it is accurate, that it sends the signal that you should not help people not drive while intoxicated, because you can get punished for that. Yay for the insanity.

Well, if some of the comments are anything to go by, the "right" thing is to stay away from alcohol under any circumstances. Protecting yourself trumps doing the sensible thing, apparently.
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#10  Postby NamelessFaceless » Oct 17, 2013 2:45 pm

It sounds like the police were being dicks too. If they knew she hadn't been drinking they shouldn't have arrested her.
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#11  Postby Regina » Oct 17, 2013 5:08 pm

NamelessFaceless wrote:It sounds like the police were being dicks too. If they knew she hadn't been drinking they shouldn't have arrested her.

This is not a good opportunity for cop bashing. According to reports, police explicitly confirmed that she had not been drinking.
Here's one: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162- ... -the-case/
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#12  Postby NamelessFaceless » Oct 18, 2013 2:43 pm

Regina wrote:
NamelessFaceless wrote:It sounds like the police were being dicks too. If they knew she hadn't been drinking they shouldn't have arrested her.

This is not a good opportunity for cop bashing. According to reports, police explicitly confirmed that she had not been drinking.
Here's one: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162- ... -the-case/


Yes, that's my point. They confirmed she wasn't drinking, so why did they arrest her?
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#13  Postby Regina » Oct 18, 2013 2:51 pm

NamelessFaceless wrote:
Regina wrote:
NamelessFaceless wrote:It sounds like the police were being dicks too. If they knew she hadn't been drinking they shouldn't have arrested her.

This is not a good opportunity for cop bashing. According to reports, police explicitly confirmed that she had not been drinking.
Here's one: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162- ... -the-case/


Yes, that's my point. They confirmed she wasn't drinking, so why did they arrest her?

She was not arrested.
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#14  Postby NamelessFaceless » Oct 18, 2013 3:19 pm

Ok, now I'm really confused. The link in the OP had this in it:

They arrested a dozen underage drinkers and warned another 15 underage youths that they’d be summoned to court for drinking.

Erin Cox was one of those told she’d be summoned for drinking — even though she wasn’t, even though Boxford police Officer Brian Neeley vouched for her sobriety in writing in a statement Erin’s mother, Eleanor, took to court Friday.
- See more at: http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/co ... bjJaW.dpuf


She was apparently summoned to court for drinking, not the same as an arrest. Still, I'm not sure why they felt they needed to summon her to court when they already knew she wasn't drinking. It's a waste of the court's time. But I agree, the biggest dicks are the school officials.
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#15  Postby Regina » Oct 18, 2013 3:26 pm

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Re: School slaps teen for doing the right thing

#16  Postby NamelessFaceless » Oct 18, 2013 4:05 pm

That is bizarre. Maybe he was confused by the link in the OP too. :scratch:
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Re: School slaps teen for doing the right thing

#17  Postby NamelessFaceless » Oct 22, 2013 8:07 pm

Uh-oh.

It looks like she may have been lying the whole time:

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/highschoo ... 52983.html

The Valley Patriot reporter Tom Duggan cited law enforcement sources, social media accounts from fellow students and their parents as well as comments on both the Boston Herald and WGBH reports in calling Cox's version of the night's events "a lie."

"What the media reported was the details of the student and her family and their attorney, and they just ran with it as if her version was fact," a North Andover Police Officer told The Valley Patriot Monday. "We now know that her version is in dispute, and there is a lot of evidence to show she was at that party a lot longer than she claimed."
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#18  Postby quixotecoyote » Oct 25, 2013 1:47 am

This is such a big freaking deal and it really doesn't have to be
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Re: School slaps teen for doing the right thing

#19  Postby talkietoaster » Dec 18, 2013 2:22 pm

Mick wrote:
Regina wrote:http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/columnists/margery_eagan/2013/10/eagan_school_slaps_teen_for_doing_the_right_thing

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Your OP title is misleading. The school didn't 'slap' her for the right thing. It 'slapped' her for doing something they believe to be the bad thing. Your title suggests the school understood it as the right thing and then 'slapped' her for it.


because the school where fuck wits in thinking it was a bad, hence the slap reference. It wasn't the wrong thing to do, when see was being a mature person in helping a friend and she wasn't even arrest either.
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