Large Nostrils in certain ethnic groups

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Large Nostrils in certain ethnic groups

#1  Postby Ciwan » Oct 22, 2011 9:51 pm

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Someone asked me the following question today. She said:

Do you know why african people have large nostrils ?


I smiled. I told her not all african people have large nostrils, and I went as far as saying if statistics were gathered on such a thing, africans with small nostrils might outnumber those with large ones.

So after correcting the question for her, the question became:

Why do you certain ethnic groups (not only in Africans, but Australian aborigines, and I'm sure others) have large nostrils ??


Then I went ahead and told her that I had no idea why that was.

She said the answer was to do with their hot climate and how they need to breath in more oxygen.

But to be honest, I don't buy that. It doesn't seem like a good explanation. And that is why I'm here. Can someone answer the question please ? Hopefully with Scientific paper backing.

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#2  Postby Ironclad » Oct 22, 2011 10:26 pm

I imagine there's an evolutionary advantage, perhaps heat exchange (cooling) during extended hunting runs?
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#4  Postby Tursas » Oct 23, 2011 1:55 am

I suspect the question is the wrong way around.
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#5  Postby Ciwan » Oct 23, 2011 9:50 am

Please make it the right way around Tursas :D
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#6  Postby Ironclad » Oct 23, 2011 9:53 am

"what would be the evolutionary advantage of having larger/broader.."
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#7  Postby Tursas » Oct 23, 2011 12:13 pm

I mean if you consider the latest common ancestor for these populations your friend is talking about ("certain ethnic groups" vs. your friend's particular ethnic group)--maybe your friend's nostrils have, in fact, gotten smaller*, in which case the question would be "Why do certain ethnic groups have small nostrils?"

*I have no idea if this is the case
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#8  Postby Ciwan » Oct 23, 2011 12:15 pm

Cool, let's make the question that way then. Still we haven't got a solid answer.
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#9  Postby inkaStepa » Oct 27, 2011 12:41 am

All the better to smell with? I always wondered why some people have high bridged noses though since the bone takes on a different shape not just the cartilage. Someone told me it was to warm air better once...
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#10  Postby Ciwan » Oct 27, 2011 6:41 am

Hi inkaStepa I've heard that too, though in the version I heard, it was so that they cool the air !!

Cause in their warm climate, air is already warm/hot.

Is there no solid research on this ?
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#11  Postby inkaStepa » Oct 27, 2011 11:04 pm

The people who live in the Andes mountains have really high bridges....but I haven't found any research about it. I'm not even sure how one would go about studying it though.
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#12  Postby laklak » Oct 28, 2011 2:32 am

Living in a dusty environment and getting lots of boogers?
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#13  Postby Gallstones » Oct 28, 2011 3:41 am

laklak wrote:Living in a dusty environment and getting lots of boogers?


Wouldn't that just give them longer, slimmer fingers?
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#14  Postby gleniedee » Oct 28, 2011 5:01 am

quote="Gallstones";p="1046181"]
laklak wrote:Living in a dusty environment and getting lots of boogers?


Wouldn't that just give them longer, slimmer fingers?[/quote]

Not if they live in parts of SE Asia.There is a fragrant and rather common practice; a person of either gender places their thumb against one nostril opening, and blows through the other. Words cannot express how elegant it looks seeing a stream of snot exiting a human nostril at great force and speed.

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#15  Postby Berthold » Nov 05, 2011 3:27 pm

gleniedee wrote:Not if they live in parts of SE Asia.There is a fragrant and rather common practice; a person of either gender places their thumb against one nostril opening, and blows through the other. Words cannot express how elegant it looks seeing a stream of snot exiting a human nostril at great force and speed.

Known hereabouts as "sportsman's nose blowing". :grin:
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#16  Postby felltoearth » Nov 05, 2011 3:30 pm

Being of Northern European descent and having had an operation for a deviated septum, I'm wondering why my people's nose shape is considered desirable.
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#17  Postby Steviepinhead » Nov 09, 2011 5:54 am

The real question is why do those subpopulations have such fat fingers.
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#18  Postby Rome Existed » Nov 11, 2011 9:50 am

I've read that large nostrils help cool air, which is why Neanderthals had them, ironically enough.
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#19  Postby The_Metatron » Nov 11, 2011 9:54 am

felltoearth wrote:Being of Northern European descent and having had an operation for a deviated septum, I'm wondering why my people's nose shape is considered desirable.

Coke?

Or Pepsi?
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#20  Postby Spearthrower » Nov 11, 2011 7:32 pm

It's to do with the shape of the nasal cavity and the orientation of the nasal bone and cartilage. Not everything is adaptation.
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