Tracking the evolution of corona virus in real time

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Tracking the evolution of corona virus in real time

#1  Postby Rumraket » Mar 04, 2020 12:31 am

This was just posted on Panda’s Thumb by Joe Felsenstein:
https://pandasthumb.org/archives/2020/03/Evolutionary-biology-in-real-time.html

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Here in Seattle, Joan and I have “gone to ground” at home, working from home and seeing in person as few people as possible. The Covid-19 coronavirus flu is spreading fairly rapidly locally. Creationists are fond of claiming that medical science does not make use of evolution in practice. So, in this case is evolutionary biology relevant? You bet! Evolutionary virologist Trevor Bedford at the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center is on the case, tracing out genealogical trees of virus sequences to track transmission locally and globally. He and his group made the news with their discovery that Covid-19 arrived in Seattle at least as early as the 15th of January, almost 7 weeks ago. (I think we’re supposed to call the virus itself SARS-CoV-2). Trevor has been reporting results every few hours on his Twitter account (here). His report of “cryptic transmission” can be found at his blog which is here. Very much worth reading.


Extremely fascinating to read the blog. Also the link to https://nextstrain.org/ncov where you can see the phylogenetic tree of the virus so far. If you hover over the different branches with the cursor it even shows what mutations occurred on that particular lineage.
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#2  Postby Cito di Pense » Mar 22, 2020 11:39 am

This is now even more interesting than it was at first. Why has this thread been forgotten?
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#3  Postby NineBerry » Mar 22, 2020 1:31 pm

How would creationists even explain viruses without invoking the principles of evolution?
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#4  Postby Cito di Pense » Mar 22, 2020 1:33 pm

NineBerry wrote:How would creationists even explain viruses without invoking the principles of evolution?


To have me take their invocation seriously, they'd have to show they can understand those principles to begin with. They're used to invoking stuff just to hear the sound of their own invocation, remember?

This isn't interesting purely because it might suggest arguments against creationism.
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#5  Postby Rumraket » Mar 23, 2020 11:30 pm

Cito di Pense wrote:This is now even more interesting than it was at first. Why has this thread been forgotten?

Beats me, it's extremely fascinating to see how the virus evolves into different lineages in different geographical areas over time.

In some lineages, the protein coding gene in the virus has already accumulated more mutations than some IDcreationists at the discovery institute claim is possible for evolution to accomplish over the entire history of life. Not kidding.

Some ID creationists have claimed that it would be impossible for two protein coding gene duplicates to diverge by more than 7 amino acid substitutions over the entire history of life.

7 amino acids? Impossible! And here it has happened in a matter of months. :lol:
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#6  Postby jaydot » Mar 24, 2020 2:48 am

this is handy:

https://ncov2019.live/data

Avi Schiffmann put it together and keeps it updated. he can be followed on twitter @AviSchiffmann.
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