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#21  Postby Macdoc » Jun 07, 2016 8:28 pm

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#22  Postby crank » Jun 14, 2016 9:19 am

Macdoc wrote:There is no benefit to a curve aside from a bit of added strength and showing that it can be done. ( OLED is flexible ).


Macdoc wrote:I'm no where near 2 meters from my screen ...I work 30" from the 55" OLED and 12" from my Retina screen.

...I'm about 1 meter from the corners and a bit less than a meter at the closest and it is superb.


This is one of the benefits of curved screens, the edges are the same distance away as the center. If you're sitting relatively close, that can make a difference to where your eyes are focused to. It also will limit the geometric distortion inevitable at the edges. and it's closer to how you actually see. Focus issues are at the heart of why most people who have issues watching 3D get headaches and other problems. 3D may be a bit of a gimmick now, but it's definitely the only way to go for VR. They'll have to solve the focus issue, holographically probably.
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#23  Postby Macdoc » Jun 14, 2016 1:38 pm

the edges are the same distance away as the center.


um no....the curve was no where near a 1 meter radius...it's quite shallow.

Unfortunately the screen died and I'm getting a credit against something else ....not sure yet what I want to do ...they have a 48" 4k LED which gets decent reviews but not much of a savings over new but apparently streams 4k well. Undecided.

I'm back to my 24" 4k Dell which is fine but nowhere near the "pop" of the OLED.

VR will be big but will be personal. 3D has zilch appeal.
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#24  Postby crank » Jun 14, 2016 3:22 pm

You think VR won't have 3D? Are you saying 3D available now has zilch appeal or 3D in general? If they could do it well, it would be comparable to the addition of color. The benefits of curved screens probably require bigger screens with appropriate viewing distance. I haven't even seen one other than a couple of brief glances at a display model while walking past, it wasn't all that large a screen. The simulators they use to train pilots use screens that I think come close to 180 degrees field of view. I haven't tried any VR headsets either, I don't know what their fields of view are. If those aren't pretty wide, it's never going to look all that good, at least to me. Without the peripheral stuff getting presented, it will suck as a VR experience.
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#25  Postby Macdoc » Jun 14, 2016 5:44 pm

VR IS 3d ....the FOV on VR is wide but because it looks where you look it's not as critical.

concensus on curved screens in the industry is there is no benefit ....it was show bit to show how the screens...notably OLED can be curved.

It's kinda cool looking in a room but certainly not needed ...some benefit to people like me using near field.

3D in movies is good on a big screen like an iMax ...not so much at home...

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#26  Postby purplerat » Jun 17, 2016 8:53 pm

Interesting on the curved screens stuff. I just bought myself a 65" 4K and seated 7' away I felt like a curved screen might have had some benefits but right now the price difference is just too much. At least when I bought 3D TVs in the past they were barely more expensive so I don't feel bad that I don't even know where the glasses are anymore that's how often I use the feature.
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#27  Postby surreptitious57 » Jun 19, 2016 6:35 am

New technology may be impressive but it will eventually at some point become obsolete
Which is why one should not be too enthusiastic about it when discussing its capabilities
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#28  Postby tuco » Jun 19, 2016 6:41 am

That is one way to look at it. Another way to look at it is that technological progress, perhaps the only measurable progress of humans, takes place in steps. In this sense, yeah lets be enthusiastic about every step, because steps are needed. Personally, I am fascinated by tech but that's just me.
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#29  Postby Macdoc » Jun 19, 2016 10:17 am

New technology may be impressive but it will eventually at some point become obsolete
Which is why one should not be too enthusiastic about it when discussing its capabilities


So what ....
A) obsolete does not mean not useful - we sell 7 year old Macs that are not only useful but delightful to use thanks to SSD

B) the nature of my work means being an early adopter to provide my clients with insight - for instance I warned one of my high end photographers to wait for OLED monitors to drop before he upgrades,

Taken from a 35 year view of high end imaging I'm well able to judge what new tech is significant and OLED is big time significant for those of us who care about the quality of those images, video or still. And most anyone will be rocked back seeing it under optimum feed.
Few even understand how good an image CAN be .....it's my job with my clients to inform them.
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#30  Postby LucidFlight » Jun 19, 2016 10:52 am

I don't know if, in general, Aussies just sound enthusiastic, but Dave certainly loves talking about these now not-so-state-of-the-art machines:



(Thought you might like that one, Macdoc ;) )

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PS. I've been considering buying a 27-inch Retina iMac just for the display. Unfortunately, iMacs can't be used as an external display (as far as I'm aware). Well, there's always the rumoured 5K Thunderbolt Display :P
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#31  Postby Macdoc » Jun 19, 2016 1:50 pm

Actually we sell those 5 to 1 over the current MacPros as they offer power within 10% of the top of line 12 Core current for 1/2 price or less with similar features,

3.33 12 core with 96 gigs of RAM 1 TB SSD and GTX980 went out on Thursday for $5k .....a 12 core with 64 and 1 TB fLash and D700s also sold at $8900.

The 1,1 and 2,1 cannot run current software but are belletproof servers and can run both platforms. 5,1 towers are the ticket and we sell dozens- mostto Protool and Logic media creators

I suspect now that Apple will wait for an OLED USB-C display if they do bring one out.

The 5k iMac display is still breath taking even against OLED - You can of course boot off your lappie via Thunderbolt and use the iMac via Target mode.
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#32  Postby LucidFlight » Jun 19, 2016 2:39 pm

Nice... ooh Target Display Mode! OMG! I didn't know that was a thing. Thanks, Macdoc!

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ETA: Oh, apparently, Retina iMacs don't support Target Display Mode :(

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#33  Postby Macdoc » Jun 19, 2016 3:21 pm

Put the lappie in Target display mode - it turns the lappie into an external drive and just boot the iMAc off that drive instead of the internal drive on the iMac. Connected with Thunderbolt there is no speed lag.
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#34  Postby LucidFlight » Jun 19, 2016 6:43 pm

Ooh, I see. Didn't know you could do that either. Excellent!
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#35  Postby aliihsanasl » Jun 19, 2016 7:33 pm

I dont care much about resolution even I can say Im not very happy about the resolution battle going on. As I dropped the resolution quality of the fonts droppimg when I increase it to full hd this time objects on the screen turning into ant size.

720p enough for me only if there was a panel which would handle both TV and monitor functions decently. Till last years Loewe produced great panels and worked great both as a pc monitor and TV. But in the last years they began to use parts produced in Turkey and they are being made in Vestel's company.
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#36  Postby Macdoc » Jun 19, 2016 7:37 pm

That's an OS issue not a screen issue and you will care as 4k and OLED roll out....might take a while to trickle down to you. No matter what tech you purchase, camera or computer or even image hosting site....you need to be aware of 4k as the coming standard.
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#37  Postby aliihsanasl » Jun 19, 2016 7:52 pm

Macdoc wrote:That's an OS issue not a screen issue and you will care as 4k and OLED roll out....might take a while to trickle down to you. No matter what tech you purchase, camera or computer or even image hosting site....you need to be aware of 4k as the coming standard.


Less than a year ago I bought a new panel I plugged laptop only a few weeks and there is marks of windows start button, taskbar etc.

I asked a different tech store than I bought the TV, guy said there are Sharp OLED we sell for 10.000 $ they have the same issue too.

Loewe never had such a problem in 10 years and I didnt even care too leave on a fixed image.
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#38  Postby Macdoc » Jun 24, 2016 6:04 am

Settled out the broken 55" OLED for an intact and working fine
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all reasonable technoloby....smaller size is a bit more useable at my distance. Certainly a worthwhile exercise.
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#39  Postby Macdoc » Jul 16, 2016 1:28 am

Staff calibrated the Samsung 4k while I was away ....quite pleased.. Marco Polo in 4k streaming on Netflix looks wonderful at .5m.

Here is a clear illustration of the the difference to those that think 1080p is suffient.

http://ca.rtings.com/tv/reviews/by-reso ... g-compared
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#40  Postby Macdoc » Nov 12, 2016 5:32 am

Not OLED but a jump forward in image quality - might stick around here a bit long
Could not figure a spot to put it
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Despite the high price and compatbility issues the 2016 MacBook Pros sure deliver in two areas.....drive speeds..off the charts in Black Magic Speed test....2 GB per second...pegged with 1.3 GBps write. But the real treat is the improved screen. Doing side by side with my previous generation Retina....the new one is brighter with better colour and real "pop".
1/2 a lb lighter, insane battery life....really a treat for photography. Downsides...pricey, USB-C only .....say whot :what: There are no other ports.
So toss most of your fav peripherals and in particular any and all monitors except the exceptional USB-C only LG 4k and 5k screens.
Yup that's it ...only two monitors to choosed from but at 500 nits the LZG screens are spectacular with very accurate colour that can handle the USB-C directly.
However there are adapters to HDMi and VGA.

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Bit of a "bite the bullet" from Apple to up the game ....uptake from clients has been marginal for me....previous gen very popular but I think that will not be for long. The new ones are a visual treat and that drive is amazing. Add in the superb screen both on the laptop and the LG 5k contribution ....sets the bar very high for a photo studio to go.....but damn the new Retina laptops are expensive...especially given the Sterling and Canadian dollar.
But my photos sure look good.

USB-C is coming to cameras as well. The transfer rates are crazy and all the data for ultra high end video plus power to charge devices all in one cable will arrive across the electronic space.

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It’s small, yes, but also speedy. The new connector promises transfer speeds of 10Gbps. That’s as fast the current USB 3.1 standard (which is in turn faster than USB 3.0), but slower than Thunderbolt 2, which clocks in at 20Gbps. This speed differential means that for some applications–such as video editing off of an external hard drive–the new USB Type-C connection won’t replace Thunderbolt 2 anytime soon.

Still, it packs enough bandwidth to drive a 5K display. In fact, the USB Type-C standard can do the work of an HDMI, VGA and Mini Displayport cable, which is why Apple consolidated all of those functions into just a single port on its new MacBook.


Just what you wanted...another cable standard.... :roll: ain't progress fun. :coffee:

and NOW I'm entirely spoiled as to image quality on the lappie..... :doh:
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