Curb Your Enthusiasm

devogue · **#41** by **devogue** » Nov 06, 2012 12:24 am

HughMcB wrote:
Scot Dutchy wrote:Hugh this level of comedy is so fucking low the drains are too high for it.

I think you just don't get it. Perhaps it's beyond you. :thubmup:

It's a real shame because Scot could have won the LOL Post thread by simply posting this as a retort to Hugh...

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osvN34PXjgU[/youtube]

:naughty2:

Bella Fortuna · **#42** by **Bella Fortuna** » Nov 06, 2012 12:34 am

I don't watch network TV as it's generally abysmal, and cable shows are typically better and have more freedom. This show is fantastic - Larry's such a moron, and can't resist making every bad situation exponentially worse by always doing or saying the absolutely wrong thing. You cringe while you're laughing - brilliant. :lol:

devogue · **#43** by **devogue** » Nov 06, 2012 12:38 am

Bella Fortuna wrote:I don't watch network TV as it's generally abysmal, and cable shows are typically better and have more freedom. This show is fantastic - Larry's such a moron, and can't resist making every bad situation exponentially worse by always doing or saying the absolutely wrong thing. You cringe while you're laughing - brilliant.

All true, but it's actually everyone else who is a moron, not Larry (much). :smug:

Onyx8 · **#44** by **Onyx8** » Nov 06, 2012 1:12 am

Scot Dutchy wrote:
HughMcB wrote:
Scot Dutchy wrote:Do you really think so?

It is a thought thanks.

Hey if you can accurately assess shows in mere seconds then that's a talent not to waste. Blogging might be a good start.

I might just do that.

Short blog though: "Everything the US has ever or will ever do is shit and Dutch people are perfect." /end blog.

devogue · **#45** by **devogue** » Nov 06, 2012 1:14 am

Onyx8 wrote:
Scot Dutchy wrote:
HughMcB wrote:
Scot Dutchy wrote:Do you really think so?

It is a thought thanks.

Hey if you can accurately assess shows in mere seconds then that's a talent not to waste. Blogging might be a good start.

I might just do that.

Short blog though: "Everything the US has ever or will ever do is shit and Dutch people are perfect." /end blog.

They're still annoyed about New Amsterdam.

CdesignProponentsist · **#46** by **CdesignProponentsist** » Nov 06, 2012 2:29 am

Scot Dutchy wrote:
HughMcB wrote:
Scot Dutchy wrote:Hugh this level of comedy is so fucking low the drains are too high for it.

I think you just don't get it. Perhaps it's beyond you. :thubmup:

WTF the biggest bloody moron in the world would watch this stuff because that is the level it is at.

It is AMERICAN comedy!! FFS

What is that supposed to mean? Do you not like it because it isn't your thing or are you saying you don't like it simply because it's American?

devogue · **#47** by **devogue** » Nov 06, 2012 2:31 am

CdesignProponentsist wrote:
Scot Dutchy wrote:
HughMcB wrote:
Scot Dutchy wrote:Hugh this level of comedy is so fucking low the drains are too high for it.

I think you just don't get it. Perhaps it's beyond you. :thubmup:

WTF the biggest bloody moron in the world would watch this stuff because that is the level it is at.

It is AMERICAN comedy!! FFS

What is that supposed to mean?

I think it means I am the biggest bloody moron in the world because I find humour at that level funny.

:smoke:

CdesignProponentsist · **#48** by **CdesignProponentsist** » Nov 06, 2012 2:55 am

devogue wrote:
HughMcB wrote:
Scot Dutchy wrote:Hugh this level of comedy is so fucking low the drains are too high for it.

I think you just don't get it. Perhaps it's beyond you. :thubmup:

It's a real shame because Scot could have won the LOL Post thread by simply posting this as a retort to Hugh...

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osvN34PXjgU[/youtube]

Onyx8 · **#49** by **Onyx8** » Nov 06, 2012 3:59 am

I actually find it fairly 'British' in character. Unusual for American comedy.

Seabass · **#50** by **Seabass** » Nov 06, 2012 4:27 am

Onyx8 wrote:I actually find it fairly 'British' in character. Unusual for American comedy.

Rofl. What the hell is that supposed to mean? So I guess if it's bad, it's more 'American' in character, but if it's good, it's more 'British' in character. Jesus Christ, you people...

felltoearth · **#51** by **felltoearth** » Nov 06, 2012 4:41 am

Seabass wrote:
Onyx8 wrote:I actually find it fairly 'British' in character. Unusual for American comedy.

Rofl. What the hell is that supposed to mean? So I guess if it's bad, it's more 'American' in character, but if it's good, it's more 'British' in character. Jesus Christ, you people...

There is something very Basil Fawlty about Larry David.

CdesignProponentsist · **#52** by **CdesignProponentsist** » Nov 06, 2012 6:12 am

Any good comedy at its core is going to be about what terrifies you. Most good American comedy is usually about our fear of appearing stupid. With British comedy it is usually the fear of embarrassment. I like both really.

With "Curb Your Enthusiasm" it is all about social ostracization. It stays true to that and does it well.

Most of what is attributed to American comedy is the formatted situational crap the networks churn out every year or two. And I think all of what America has to offer is judged by the crap, which is unfair. That isn't, in my opinion, American comedy. Real American comedy is on the cable channels or are indi productions.

Onyx8 · **#53** by **Onyx8** » Nov 06, 2012 6:50 am

Seabass wrote:
Onyx8 wrote:I actually find it fairly 'British' in character. Unusual for American comedy.

Rofl. What the hell is that supposed to mean? So I guess if it's bad, it's more 'American' in character, but if it's good, it's more 'British' in character. Jesus Christ, you people...

No, not at all, how did you get that out of what I said? (Who are the "you people" you refer to here?)

Are you not following the thread? I am mostly responding to the OIA comment.

I enjoy lots of American humor and also lots of British humour. I merely recognised a difference there and, rightly or not opined that the humor in "Curb" was 'British' in some humourous sense. Do you not see a difference between humor in US TV and that in British TV generally?

Nostalgia · **#54** by **Nostalgia** » Nov 06, 2012 6:51 pm

Although there is definitely a difference between American and British humour I think what causes the majority of differences between American and British shows is they way they are made... or more specifically - the way they are wrote. The majority of popular American comedy shows (or at least the type of shows that get syndication outside the States) are written in conference, where you have X amount of people sitting around a table throwing ideas and jokes at each other. This may lead to more jokes per half-hour but imho leads to a lower quality of show. Whereas most British shows are written by single writers, much like Curb.

But of course any suggestion that just because a show is American means it's shit is a hugely arrogant and a frankly borderline racist thing to say.

Seabass · **#55** by **Seabass** » Nov 06, 2012 8:12 pm

Onyx8 wrote:
Seabass wrote:
Onyx8 wrote:I actually find it fairly 'British' in character. Unusual for American comedy.

Rofl. What the hell is that supposed to mean? So I guess if it's bad, it's more 'American' in character, but if it's good, it's more 'British' in character. Jesus Christ, you people...

No, not at all, how did you get that out of what I said? (Who are the "you people" you refer to here?)

Are you not following the thread? I am mostly responding to the OIA comment.

I enjoy lots of American humor and also lots of British humour. I merely recognised a difference there and, rightly or not opined that the humor in "Curb" was 'British' in some humourous sense. Do you not see a difference between humor in US TV and that in British TV generally?

Such generalizations are useless. There is a long, rich, diverse history of comedy in this country. But the youtube/facebook generation in Europe knows only Everybody Loves Raymond, Friends, and Seinfeld, so they think that's American comedy in a nutshell. So when they see something that's actually good like Curb, they think it must be a fluke. It's ridiculous.

Seabass · **#56** by **Seabass** » Nov 06, 2012 8:23 pm

MacIver wrote:Although there is definitely a difference between American and British humour I think what causes the majority of differences between American and British shows is they way they are made... or more specifically - the way they are wrote. The majority of popular American comedy shows (or at least the type of shows that get syndication outside the States) are written in conference, where you have X amount of people sitting around a table throwing ideas and jokes at each other. This may lead to more jokes per half-hour but imho leads to a lower quality of show. Whereas most British shows are written by single writers, much like Curb.

http://www.rationalskepticism.org/film- ... l#p1528082

But of course any suggestion that just because a show is American means it's shit is a hugely arrogant and a frankly borderline racist thing to say.

"Borderline"? How is it any different from actual racism? It's like an 18th century racist saying blacks are incapable of poetry or symphony. The only difference is, "American" is generally only considered to be "nationality" and not a "race" like many other nationalities, so no one bats an eyelid.

Shrunk · **#57** by **Shrunk** » Nov 06, 2012 8:36 pm

felltoearth wrote:There is something very Basil Fawlty about Larry David.

That's interesting, because I was going to refer to Fawlty Towers (still probably my all time favourite TV comedy) as an illustration of the difference between "American" and "British" comedy. In contrast to the minimal scripting that occurs in Curb, I recall an interview w/ John Cleese where he referred to the extraordinary length of the typical script for a Fawlty Towers episode. And I think it shows in the clockwork like precision of the show. Nothing is extraneous; you get the sense that if even a single line were removed the whole thing would fall apart. Cleese also contrasted that to the more improvisational approach of North American comedy groups like Second City, which he attributed in part to financial constraints; he said something like "We didn't have the money to just keep the cameras rolling until something funny happened, and then use that." He didn't seem to mean it as a criticism, but just as a point about the different methods used.

virphen · **#58** by **virphen** » Nov 06, 2012 8:58 pm

I've never seen this particular programme so I can't comment on it specifically, but the idea that something is crap because it is American is just so patently absurd. It's like judging all British comedy on Are You Being Served?.

Nostalgia · **#59** by **Nostalgia** » Nov 06, 2012 9:37 pm

Seabass wrote:There is a long, rich, diverse history of comedy in this country. But the youtube/facebook generation in Europe knows only Everybody Loves Raymond, Friends, and Seinfeld, so they think that's American comedy in a nutshell. So when they see something that's actually good like Curb, they think it must be a fluke. It's ridiculous.

As a 27yr old I'm not sure if I can count myself as a member of the Youtube generation (and doesn't the very existence of the internet mean people nowadays will be much more aware of the variety of American television opposed to those of previous generations who had to rely purely on TV channels?). But I certainly am aware of many American television shows. Some are great, some are shit. It's purely the fact that the overall output of American TV is larger that there is seemingly more shit American shows.

With the exception of one poster in this thread (who has been universally condemned by the others) AFAIK no one has said that American comedy is automatically shit because it's American, that Curb is a fluke, or that British humour is superior to American.

It's also worth stating your original post here was aimed at a Canadian, not a European. Even though you completely misread what Onyx8 said.

"Borderline"? How is it any different from actual racism? It's like an 18th century racist saying blacks are incapable of poetry or symphony. The only difference is, "American" is generally only considered to be "nationality" and not a "race" like many other nationalities, so no one bats an eyelid.

No nationality is a race. None of them. At all. That's why I didn't call it racism outright. Perhaps if I used the word "xenophobic" instead you wouldn't of taken what I said as another excuse to exercise your apparent persecution complex. :eh:

Shrunk · **#60** by **Shrunk** » Nov 10, 2012 12:59 pm

OK, as I mentioned earlier I'm a couple seasons behind on this series, so this is probably old news to many of you. Nevertheless:

OMG! OMG! OMG! Larry hooks up with Loretta Black!

:jump:

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