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Re: Game of Thrones

#6201  Postby Agrippina » Sep 14, 2017 7:30 am

I don't like fantasy in the sense of vampires and walking dead, and especially not fairies. Yet I like LOTR and this story. Perhaps it's the drama, or the feel of history more than fantasy.
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Re: Game of Thrones

#6202  Postby Thomas Eshuis » Sep 14, 2017 7:34 am

Agrippina wrote:I don't like fantasy in the sense of vampires and walking dead, and especially not fairies. Yet I like LOTR and this story. Perhaps it's the drama, or the feel of history more than fantasy.

Well, vampires and the walking dead tend to be a seperate section of fantasy from the more LotR type fantasy.
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#6203  Postby VazScep » Sep 14, 2017 7:38 am

Agrippina wrote:I don't like fantasy in the sense of vampires and walking dead, and especially not fairies. Yet I like LOTR and this story. Perhaps it's the drama, or the feel of history more than fantasy.
I wish GoT didn't have dragons. I was okay with the whitewalkers so long as they were irrelevant.

The dedication at the beginning of Book 3 makes me think that Martin was of two minds on the fantasy stuff, and he has said that he doesn't make an essential distinction between fantasy and sci-fi. Even on the dragons, he is insistent that they are four-limbed wyverns, because it doesn't make evolutionary sense (!) for them to be six-limbed.
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#6204  Postby crank » Sep 14, 2017 8:05 am

willhud9 wrote:GOT wasn't genre defying and neither was ASoIaF. It's popular because people who don't like fantasy can watch it and be sucked into the drama of the show.

I enjoy it, but to say it has made me evaluate myself or hold the fantasy genre to higher critique is laughable. I can list 10 fantasy series all better than Song of Ice and Fire.

Is one of those Glen Cook's The Black Company books? I've yet to come across anyone who's read them much less appreciated them as much as I did. They can be incredibly funny and dark, and the way he portrays the use of magic and it's presence in the world is the best I've come across.
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#6205  Postby Shrunk » Sep 14, 2017 5:01 pm

willhud9 wrote:I can list 10 fantasy series all better than Song of Ice and Fire.
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Please do. I'd appreciate the reading recommendations.
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#6206  Postby scott1328 » Sep 14, 2017 9:14 pm

Dragonriders of Pern for one. But don't read past All The Werys of Pern
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#6207  Postby Agrippina » Sep 15, 2017 7:53 am

I realised my error last when I read the scene when Jon realises that Aemon was a Targaryen.

Aemon was the son of Maeker I, fourth son of Daeron II, and brother of Aegon V, the Unlikely, Maekar's fourth son (233-259) and grandfather of Aerys II, the Mad King, making Aemon the Mad King's great-uncle.

Aemon aids Jon Snow in helping his friend Samwell Tarly become a steward of the Night's Watch, fearing for the boy's safety if he remains a recruit under the brutal training of Ser Alliser Thorne.s Aemon counsels Jon Snow when he learns Jon's family is in danger, for he knew Jon was having thoughts of deserting to come to House Stark's aid, just as Aemon had considered helping House Targaryen during Robert's Rebellion.


http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Aemon_Targaryen_(son_of_Maekar_I)

“A toothless smile quivered on the ancient lips. “Only a maester of the Citadel, bound in service to Castle Black and the Night’s Watch. In my order, we put aside our house names when we take our vows and don the collar.” The old man touched the maester’s chain that hung loosely around his thin, fleshless neck. “My father was Maekar, the First of his Name, and my brother Aegon reigned after him in my stead. My grandfather named me for Prince Aemon the Dragonknight, who was his uncle, or his father, depending on which tale you believe. Aemon, he called me…”
“Aemon… Targaryen?” Jon could scarcely believe it.
“Once,” the old man said. “Once. So you see, Jon, I do know… and knowing, I will not tell you stay or go. You must make that choice yourself, and live with it all the rest of your days. As I have.” His voice fell to a whisper. “As I have…”

Excerpt From: George R. R. Martin. “A Game of Thrones.” iBooks.
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#6208  Postby crank » Sep 15, 2017 9:47 am

Agrippina wrote:I realised my error last when I read the scene when Jon realises that Aemon was a Targaryen.

Aemon was the son of Maeker I, fourth son of Daeron II, and brother of Aegon V, the Unlikely, Maekar's fourth son (233-259) and grandfather of Aerys II, the Mad King, making Aemon the Mad King's great-uncle.

Aemon aids Jon Snow in helping his friend Samwell Tarly become a steward of the Night's Watch, fearing for the boy's safety if he remains a recruit under the brutal training of Ser Alliser Thorne.s Aemon counsels Jon Snow when he learns Jon's family is in danger, for he knew Jon was having thoughts of deserting to come to House Stark's aid, just as Aemon had considered helping House Targaryen during Robert's Rebellion.


http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Aemon_Targaryen_(son_of_Maekar_I)

“A toothless smile quivered on the ancient lips. “Only a maester of the Citadel, bound in service to Castle Black and the Night’s Watch. In my order, we put aside our house names when we take our vows and don the collar.” The old man touched the maester’s chain that hung loosely around his thin, fleshless neck. “My father was Maekar, the First of his Name, and my brother Aegon reigned after him in my stead. My grandfather named me for Prince Aemon the Dragonknight, who was his uncle, or his father, depending on which tale you believe. Aemon, he called me…”
“Aemon… Targaryen?” Jon could scarcely believe it.
“Once,” the old man said. “Once. So you see, Jon, I do know… and knowing, I will not tell you stay or go. You must make that choice yourself, and live with it all the rest of your days. As I have.” His voice fell to a whisper. “As I have…”

Excerpt From: George R. R. Martin. “A Game of Thrones.” iBooks.

You might remember, in the books, his dying words show how that past still haunts him.
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#6209  Postby Agrippina » Sep 15, 2017 11:07 am

Yes. I do remember that. :thumbup:

Also in the book when Jon decides to join Robb's fight, and he has this conversation with Aemon:

“But he had not left the Wall for that; he had left because he was after all his father’s son, and Robb’s brother. The gift of a sword, even a sword as fine as Longclaw, did not make him a Mormont. Nor was he Aemon Targaryen. Three times the old man had chosen, and three times he had chosen honor, but that was him. Even now, Jon could not decide whether the maester had stayed because he was weak and craven, or because he was strong and true. Yet he understood what the old man had meant, about the pain of choosing; he understood that all too well.”

Excerpt From: George R. R. Martin. “1A Game of Thrones.” iBooks.


That's interesting seeing how his ancestry is later explained.
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#6210  Postby Adrinius » Sep 15, 2017 2:41 pm

The evidence that season 8 will be a musical is here. Image

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Re: Game of Thrones

#6211  Postby Agrippina » Sep 16, 2017 6:33 am

I've seen that before. Very cute.
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#6212  Postby Agrippina » Sep 16, 2017 6:33 am

I've seen that before. Very cute.


ETA: Ooops duplicate post! :grin:
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#6213  Postby crank » Sep 16, 2017 9:48 am

I've seen that before. Very cute.
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#6214  Postby Fallible » Sep 16, 2017 9:49 am

I've seen that before. Very cute.
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#6215  Postby UncertainSloth » Sep 16, 2017 11:08 am

i have not see that before - very cute
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#6216  Postby crank » Sep 16, 2017 11:39 am

Now you've done it, it's all going to get ugly from here on out.
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#6217  Postby crank » Sep 16, 2017 11:40 am

We should congratulate ourselves on writing better drama than the GoT people have managed for much of the last season and a half or so.
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#6218  Postby Agrippina » Sep 16, 2017 1:07 pm

You won't find better drama on the internet than on Ratskep.
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#6219  Postby Spinozasgalt » Sep 16, 2017 1:27 pm

There's Emmerdale though.
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Re: Game of Thrones

#6220  Postby VazScep » Sep 16, 2017 5:59 pm

Stewart Lee on GoT:

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