Thomas Eshuis wrote:

Considering the Reach was already promised to Bronn I suppose they could have struck up a compromise where the Unsullied get to do all the ruling and Bronn all the fucking.
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Thomas Eshuis wrote:
willhud9 wrote:Thomas Eshuis wrote:Matthew Shute wrote:Such weird pacing this season. We start with 2 slow buildup episodes (which I thought were great, btw), then 10 episodes worth of story and action jammed into the next 3 episodes (with, erm, inevitably mixed results... to put it mildly), and we end with a slow resolution episode, which had some good moments, but for me didn't feel anything like sufficient payoff (and all sorts of mysteries and side plots are left hanging, with most of the relevant characters dead).
Well, at least Jon got a proper reunion with his good doggy.
The sentencing Jon to the Night's Watch thing didn't make much sense to me. With the army of the dead defeated and peace with the free folk, why would there even still be a Night's Watch? What are they supposed to be guarding the realms of men from, now?
I also don't buy Greyworm, the Unsullied and the Dothraki agreeing with that sentence. Speaking of the Dothraki, where'd they go in the resolution?
I also don’t buy the fact that after Jon kills Dany that he wouldn’t be executed immediately. Why was he arrested and several weeks pass by? Surely Grey Worm who had no issue butchering Lannister npcs would kill Jon?
purplerat wrote:Thomas Eshuis wrote:purplerat wrote:Thomas Eshuis wrote:
Did you not see Greyworms facial expressions during these last two episodes? He seemed to act more out of (grief stricken) rage, than coolly following orders.
I did. As I mentioned in my previous posts and earlier in the thread I say him acting out in rage.
I agree that those actions don't exactly square up with him being able to remain poised and act rationally. Then again I know many real people who will fly off the handle and act on pure emotion in one moment then in another appear completely rational, so...
The point still stands that it would have been stupid for Grey Worm to immediately kill Jon. Whether you want to believe he had the capacity to act intelligently or even rationally is open to interpretation I suppose.
Of course it wasn't the smart thing to do, neither was threatening to start another war if the other lords did not let him kill John....
That would be dumb, if that were how it actually went down.
Matthew Shute wrote:willhud9 wrote:Thomas Eshuis wrote:Matthew Shute wrote:Such weird pacing this season. We start with 2 slow buildup episodes (which I thought were great, btw), then 10 episodes worth of story and action jammed into the next 3 episodes (with, erm, inevitably mixed results... to put it mildly), and we end with a slow resolution episode, which had some good moments, but for me didn't feel anything like sufficient payoff (and all sorts of mysteries and side plots are left hanging, with most of the relevant characters dead).
Well, at least Jon got a proper reunion with his good doggy.
The sentencing Jon to the Night's Watch thing didn't make much sense to me. With the army of the dead defeated and peace with the free folk, why would there even still be a Night's Watch? What are they supposed to be guarding the realms of men from, now?
I also don't buy Greyworm, the Unsullied and the Dothraki agreeing with that sentence. Speaking of the Dothraki, where'd they go in the resolution?
I also don’t buy the fact that after Jon kills Dany that he wouldn’t be executed immediately. Why was he arrested and several weeks pass by? Surely Grey Worm who had no issue butchering Lannister npcs would kill Jon?
Since Drogon flew off with the body, to a different continent for all anyone knows, Jon could've told them anything. Or played dumb: "Has anyone seen Daenerys? I checked the throne room, but it looks like she decided to melt the throne and fly off somewhere. Odd! But then she has been acting strangely lately, hasn't she?" Sow confusion and buy himself some time at least. Given this was Jon, though, he probably walked up to the nearest Unsullied and said, "M'queen is dead because I stabbed her! Look no further. It was me what done the stabbing."
Thomas Eshuis wrote:purplerat wrote:Thomas Eshuis wrote:purplerat wrote:
I did. As I mentioned in my previous posts and earlier in the thread I say him acting out in rage.
I agree that those actions don't exactly square up with him being able to remain poised and act rationally. Then again I know many real people who will fly off the handle and act on pure emotion in one moment then in another appear completely rational, so...
The point still stands that it would have been stupid for Grey Worm to immediately kill Jon. Whether you want to believe he had the capacity to act intelligently or even rationally is open to interpretation I suppose.
Of course it wasn't the smart thing to do, neither was threatening to start another war if the other lords did not let him kill John....
That would be dumb, if that were how it actually went down.
It did though. He threatened to go to war if the others tried to prevent him from killing John.
Mike_L wrote:The whole thing is just a rip-off of George Lucas' Star Wars prequel trilogy (1999 - 2005)...[Reveal] Spoiler: GoT / Star Wars* Daenerys Targaryen = Anakin Skywalker, good guys who turn bad
* the Unsullied = the Clone Army
* the dragons in GoT are much like the Force in Star Wars, in each instance being wielded for both good and evil
* attack on King's Landing = attack on Jedi temple in Revenge of the Sith
* in each case the hero-turned villain has to be dealt with by a friend / ally... Daenerys by Jon Snow, and Anakin by Obi-wan Kenobi.
* each ends with a hero / principal character going into exile... Jon Snow to the North, and Yoda to Dagobah, Obi-wan to Tatooine.
Of course you GoT fanboys will never agree with me, but you know I'm right!
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willhud9 wrote:I don’t mind ideologically lawful good/neutral good characters.
Jon fit the bill for that. But for once it’s be nice to see Jon think for himself instead of having plot exposition lead him along.
Matthew Shute wrote:The army Dany addresses in her Nuremberg Rally thingy (note, it doesn't even include all the northmen, just her own personal forces) sure would've come in handy towards the end of the Battle of Winterfell, when there looked to be a tiny handful of survivors, all named characters, holding out against hundreds of thousands of wights and a zombie dragon.
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