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Rush Limbaugh not happy about "black" James Bond

#1  Postby Blackadder » Dec 30, 2014 4:54 pm

Rumours abound about Idris Elba possibly being the next James Bond.

Rush Limbaugh hasn't taken the news very well. :grin:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/12/29/rush-limbaugh-s-fear-of-a-black-james-bond.html
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Re: Rush Limbaugh not happy about "black" James Bond

#2  Postby Animavore » Dec 30, 2014 5:01 pm

Bond was not "white and Scottish" for a start, Connery was. He still played an Englishman.

The only objection I would have when I hear it crop up about a black or female James Bond or whatever is that they don't make it gimmicky. Don't make Bond black for the sake of making him black and definitely don't be as tacky as to "blackify" him by making him jive-talk or some junk.

I doubt the holder's of Ian Fleming would allow its name be tarnished. The last few movies have been rather good os I'd expect any black Bond ot be handled tastefully.
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#3  Postby Animavore » Dec 30, 2014 5:11 pm

To add, for me Bond is a refined and well-spoken, British gentleman/bad-ass. Idris Elba is already all of those things. End of.

It doesn't matter to me what colour he is as long as it is the aforementioned, iconic traits which are retained. I can handle an Irishman playing Bond, but tell me you're actually making an Irish Bond (and yes, we do have a secret service, far more secret than any MI6 or CIA because I had to go look that up) and I'd probably throw my popcorn in disgust.
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#4  Postby CdesignProponentsist » Dec 30, 2014 5:18 pm

By that same logic, James Bond should also be about 92 years old. I think Q has some new explosive dentures for him.

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#5  Postby Animavore » Dec 30, 2014 5:30 pm

The author of the piece mentions (in answer to Rush asking what about Kelsey Grammer playing Nelson Mandela) that it's ok to change the colour of fictional characters, but not so much the colour of real ones.

I agree, and it's exactly why I had no qualms about white guys playing Noah or Moses recently :smug:
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#6  Postby CdesignProponentsist » Dec 30, 2014 6:10 pm

Animavore wrote:The author of the piece mentions (in answer to Rush asking what about Kelsey Grammer playing Nelson Mandela) that it's ok to change the colour of fictional characters, but not so much the colour of real ones.

I agree, and it's exactly why I had no qualms about white guys playing Noah or Moses recently :smug:


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#7  Postby Keep It Real » Dec 30, 2014 6:40 pm

I'd mind if there were an American James Bond. :hide:
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#8  Postby orpheus » Dec 30, 2014 7:03 pm

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#9  Postby BlackBart » Dec 30, 2014 7:08 pm

Keep It Real wrote:I'd mind if there were an American James Bond. :hide:


Too late.

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#10  Postby Keep It Real » Dec 30, 2014 7:14 pm

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#11  Postby Seabass » Dec 30, 2014 7:29 pm

If a black dude from The Wire is going to be the next Bond, it should be Isiah Whitlock.



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#12  Postby VazScep » Dec 30, 2014 8:22 pm

Animavore wrote:To add, for me Bond is a refined and well-spoken, British gentleman/bad-ass. Idris Elba is already all of those things. End of.
Elba is a bad ass, but has a pretty thick London accent and a far too fashionable goatee. He's not so easily transposed in my mind to Bond. Bu then, he's not easily transposed to Nelson Mandela, so what do I know?

Anyway, how about Chiwetel Ejiofor? He wants to be the next Bond villain, but fuck that. He should be the next Bond. He has a standard middle-class accent and has a grown-up beard.
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#13  Postby VazScep » Dec 30, 2014 8:25 pm

Anyway, I don't think it's sufficient to point out that Bond is fictional to say that he can be played by a black dude. He can be played by a black dude because continuity of skin-colour/accent/preferred-drink is not a requirement of the Bond franchise. Bond is like Doctor Who, or a comic book superhero. You're supposed to reboot him, reinvent her, and keep ver updated. That's how you keep the franchise going for god knows how many decades.
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#14  Postby Briton » Dec 30, 2014 8:53 pm

Animavore wrote:Bond was not "white and Scottish" for a start, Connery was. He still played an Englishman.


He had a Scottish dad and a Swiss mother. It's not known where he was born.
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#15  Postby I'm With Stupid » Dec 30, 2014 8:54 pm

I wouldn't have a problem with it but it won't happen. It was just a suggestion in one of the leaked emails. The same set of emails also pointed out that a black lead means lower international box office takings. I'd guess this is even more the case with something like Bond where there are already preconceived ideas about the character.
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#16  Postby laklak » Dec 30, 2014 8:55 pm

orpheus wrote:The name is Orph. Uncle Orph.


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#17  Postby Ironclad » Dec 30, 2014 8:57 pm

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Animavore wrote:Bond was not "white and Scottish" for a start, Connery was. He still played an Englishman.



Son of a Scots father and Swedish mother, the family home is in Glencoe. Though Flemming never stated where James Bond was born.

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#18  Postby I'm With Stupid » Dec 30, 2014 9:00 pm

Thought he was an orphan?
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#19  Postby laklak » Dec 30, 2014 9:02 pm

Poor Rush, there are so many things that send him into a spittle-flecked rage. He should chill out. Seriously, dude, like, chill.
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#20  Postby Ironclad » Dec 30, 2014 10:03 pm

I'm With Stupid wrote:Thought he was an orphan?


Parents died in a skiing accident?
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