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Re: What's the last film you watched? (2)

#24461  Postby Animavore » Dec 17, 2020 8:06 am

The opening 6 min is the best part.
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Re: What's the last film you watched? (2)

#24462  Postby Animavore » Dec 17, 2020 4:23 pm

I finally, after a decade, sat down to watch The Social Network this afternoon. I've been circling this movie for a long time and its really only Fincher is showing up in a lot of YouTube videos of movie analysis people I watch due to his new movie out that I decided to take the plunge.

Unfortunately my gut instinct, the very thing keeping me hovering over it on Netflix for months now, has turned out to be correct. That not even a movie as masterfully directed and brilliantly acted as this one with a soundtrack featuring Trent Reznor can make me find Mark "Data" Zuckerberg remotely interesting.
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Re: What's the last film you watched? (2)

#24463  Postby arugula2 » Dec 17, 2020 6:57 pm

A different actor might've pulled it off. However, the core problem with the movie is Aaron Sorkin's writing... Sorkin can only write doppelgangers of himself. Every character is him, using his stilted speech patterns & warped (stunted) understanding of how human beings think and feel. He writes to hear himself speak through other people's mouths - that's why when he has creative control of a project he insists no one stray from his (sometimes absurd) vocabulary. It doesn't mean it's 100% bereft of real tension & humor, it just means if a Sorkin character is interesting, it's because of what the actor brings to it. Hence, the Eisenberg problem.
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Re: What's the last film you watched? (2)

#24464  Postby arugula2 » Dec 18, 2020 8:42 am

1:40:42 into Tenet with 49:27 left. This feels like it should've been a comic book. As a movie, it needed a better writer & director - and some of the editing is stupid. The cast is ok - even Branagh. Zero surprises for me so far. The 'twist' that's about to reveal itself was telegraphed visually almost an hour ago.... and again several times just now, in close-ups & with characters directly drawing attention to it before it happens. But I'm 100% sure it's supposed to feel like a 'twist'. :nod:

Whenever there's a hint of intrigue despite the visual telegraphing, the sledgehammer dialogue kills it, and there's nothing subtle or distracting or interesting in how the characters interact, which is the director's fault. And why do characters still talk loudly about top-secret stuff in crowded buses and on crowded streets, with people staring? How are audiences still taking that kind of shit in stride?
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#24465  Postby aliihsanasl » Dec 18, 2020 8:45 pm

Tenet is like James Bond movie with "Back to the Future" theme, I dont like it.
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Tenet (2020): Eh

#24466  Postby arugula2 » Dec 19, 2020 1:25 am

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The final 40 minutes were pretty good. No coincidence it's the part of the movie with the least extended dialogue. A rewrite of the dialogue would make this a pretty solid movie, even without necessarily reconsidering the lame science and philosophy in it - because the cast is decent. In the more 'confusing' action sequences (think "chase" scene and "raid" scene) things that would cause us to at least do a double take, if not wonder aloud wtf we just saw... often have no such effect on the main character. It's likely that he's inured to the stuff because of prior training, but... the first 3rd of the movie seems to establish this is mostly new to him. The inconsistency pulled me out of it more than once. (Also, even if a presence isn't 100% confusing to someone, they could reflexively notice it, at least. Editing may be a factor here.) John David Washington has the charisma for the part, but he's sometimes made to straddle cringe (in other scenes) bc of lazy writing & direction.

I have a feeling that the movie evolved from a conception of the final 40 mins... but it needed better visionaries. If you consider it from that final act, and work backwards (appropriate), you might come up with a better movie - perhaps the movie it deserved to be.
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Re: What's the last film you watched? (2)

#24467  Postby arugula2 » Dec 19, 2020 3:43 am

Animavore wrote:
[Reveal] Spoiler: massive spoilers
The way time travel is handled in this movie it that to go back in time you enter a time machine which acts like a turnstile which sends you back the way you came through time. So if you are going forward through normal time and enter it you walk back through time with everything going in reverse, from your perspective. To everyone else you look like you are going in reverse. To be able to go forward again you need to enter the, or another, turnstile again to go forward again. This means the from when the very first turnstile is active is the furthest you can go back. It also means if you miss the point where it becomes active for some reason you continue going back until you die and presumably decay in reverse.

So during the movie we follow The Protagonist forward in time, backwards in time, and forwards again, even revisiting earlier parts where reverse him is involved in earlier scenes during the action, of course reverse him was also involved in those scenes on the first pass only forward him didn't know it was himself. He then passes forward again and now he's going forward with, but out of sight, of the first forward him with reverse him going backwards as they go forward through time. When he passes the point the first forward him reversed he leaves both versions of him behind in time so there's only one him again.

From his perspective, though, he is only moving one direction. When he goes in reverse it is world that is reverse, from his perspective, and the first pass him is his past self. Going forward again he is going alongside two past selves.

There are also other agents going different directions, including a lot of Tenet agent leading to a final scene where they do a pincer manoeuvre in time on an enemy base, attacking it through both directions in time. This looked cool but, to me, seemed unnecessary.


So it's a bit of a pickle.

I'm going to scan the lore at some point, so I'm quoting you here. Has anything changed in your mind?

Also, your other post was an image of a timeline, but it went missing. Based on the url, it might be this one from reddit, which I'm re-posting here:
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Re: What's the last film you watched? (2)

#24468  Postby aliihsanasl » Dec 19, 2020 1:19 pm

What.Lies.Below.2020

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9264728/

It deserve much more than 4.5 IMDB

This movie remind me 90s Fire in the Sky.
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#24469  Postby arugula2 » Dec 19, 2020 10:14 pm

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Re: What's the last film you watched? (2)

#24470  Postby aliihsanasl » Dec 24, 2020 10:17 pm

The Silencing (2020)

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7149730/

Interesting movie, never heard that weapon till I watch it.

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Re: What's the last film you watched? (2)

#24471  Postby Animavore » Dec 28, 2020 6:57 am

Wonder Woman 1984.



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Re: What's the last film you watched? (2)

#24472  Postby arugula2 » Dec 28, 2020 8:10 am

:P


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King Charles III (2017): Almost

#24473  Postby arugula2 » Dec 28, 2020 9:37 am

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(Hoopla) Until the clownish characters (Harry, William) eclipse him, the movie coasts on Tim Pigott-Smith's brilliant performance as Charles (recently ascended after his mother finally dies, in a hypothetical near-future), Mike Bartlett's scintillating pentameter, a haunting & beautiful soundtrack, and a good story. I could see & hear the 'good story' competing with a couple of dumb, lazy minor threads worming their way to the surface, and eventually it succumbed. The movie fell apart in the final act. Credit to Pigott-Smith that he manages to own the ending... but he gets there by way of some embarrassing inconsistencies, in service of characters & themes idgaf about, because they reeeeaaaally don't matter at all. Oh well.
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Re: What's the last film you watched? (2)

#24474  Postby Hermit » Dec 28, 2020 11:52 am

aliihsanasl wrote:The Silencing (2020)

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7149730/

Interesting movie, never heard that weapon till I watch it.


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Re: What's the last film you watched? (2)

#24475  Postby Animavore » Dec 28, 2020 3:08 pm

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Re: What's the last film you watched? (2)

#24476  Postby arugula2 » Dec 28, 2020 4:32 pm

:lol: ...anticipated.

Their movie reviews are a bit lame, BUT- they agree with you 100% about WW84’s general merits. :P
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Re: What's the last film you watched? (2)

#24477  Postby UncertainSloth » Jan 02, 2021 2:23 am

She battled through in every kind of tribulation
She revelled in adventure and imagination
She never listened to no hater, liar
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Re: What's the last film you watched? (2)

#24478  Postby arugula2 » Jan 02, 2021 2:31 am

The trailer alone is exhausting. :P
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Re: What's the last film you watched? (2)

#24479  Postby felltoearth » Jan 02, 2021 4:11 am

Reminds me of one of my fav movies. Duel.




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Re: What's the last film you watched? (2)

#24480  Postby UncertainSloth » Jan 03, 2021 6:26 pm

yep, there are definite similarities....
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