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A Virtual Ecology

#1  Postby Calilasseia » Feb 10, 2018 4:36 am

This video says something distinctly unpleasant about the human species ...

In short, the creators of a role playing game, created a 'virtual ecology' within the game, in which various creatures would interact with each other as part of an ecosystem embedded within the game. What's more, after a lot of software development effort, they succeeded in getting it to work.

What happened?

When the game was let loose, gamers came along, and treated this feature in much the same manner as Victorian "Great White Hunters". They set about exterminating everything that lived, simply out of the sheer pleasure of killing.

Am I the only one here who finds this revelation seriously depressing?
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Re: A Virtual Ecology

#2  Postby SafeAsMilk » Feb 10, 2018 4:44 am

No, and I don't think the fact that I picked up a hooker, murdered her and took her money in GTA has any relation to real life. Seriously, it's a video game.
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Re: A Virtual Ecology

#3  Postby Animavore » Feb 10, 2018 4:48 am

It's just a game. I'm playing a game called Monster Hunter World which requires me to track and hunt wild beasties and use their parts to craft better equipment. It's pretty much a White Hunter fantasy.

I was reading the other day about how the Lego Minecraft type game was 'ruined' because people were erecting big, Lego dongs all over it.

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Re: A Virtual Ecology

#4  Postby Shagz » Feb 10, 2018 11:34 am

I was going to say something like, "What the hell did they expect?" Then I watched the video and realized that we're talking about 1995 here, when no one had much experience with MMORPG's.

It's not particularly depressing, nor does it really say anything unpleasant about humanity. Keep in mind we're talking about a game where, though it was all very new and exciting, there was not much else to do besides chat, do scripted quests, kill stuff, and cybersex each other.
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Re: A Virtual Ecology

#5  Postby fluttermoth » Feb 11, 2018 12:44 pm

As a (relatively) hard core gamer, I would advise very strongly against drawing conclusions form how people behave in a virtual world! I spend half my day butchering animals, and making my pets fight each other online, whereas in RL I'm a vegan and a total softy :)
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Re: A Virtual Ecology

#6  Postby LucidFlight » Feb 11, 2018 1:19 pm

I feel like starting a thread in the philosophy forum: "Why do big LEGO dongs ruin scenery?"
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Re: A Virtual Ecology

#7  Postby UncertainSloth » Feb 11, 2018 2:04 pm

but do they? i think they add a certain 'something'....

and as for the op, nah, load of tosh...there's many a thing i've done in a game that i wouldn't in real life....
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Re: A Virtual Ecology

#8  Postby Animavore » Feb 11, 2018 5:11 pm

I think they're worried the children will grow up with unrealistic expectations.
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Re: A Virtual Ecology

#9  Postby Arcanyn » Feb 12, 2018 7:53 am

When playing games I've frequently found it amusing to turn my enemies into chickens. I've yet to be tempted to do this in real life.
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#10  Postby UncertainSloth » Feb 12, 2018 7:11 pm

i guess i could be a quiet hero
no one knows the good i've done

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Re: A Virtual Ecology

#11  Postby Fallible » Feb 12, 2018 7:19 pm

The OP is nonsense. Can you believe I'm actually rude and aggressive when gaming?
John Grant wrote:They say 'let go, let go, let go, you must learn to let go'.
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Re: A Virtual Ecology

#12  Postby UncertainSloth » Feb 12, 2018 7:21 pm

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Re: A Virtual Ecology

#13  Postby Spinozasgalt » Feb 13, 2018 12:21 pm

Fallible wrote:The OP is nonsense. Can you believe I'm actually rude and aggressive when gaming?

Whoah, whoah, whoah. You play games?
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Re: A Virtual Ecology

#14  Postby Fallible » Feb 13, 2018 1:19 pm

We all play games. Do you not listen to a word that Eric Berne says??
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If I hear that fucking phrase again, this baby's gonna blow
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Re: A Virtual Ecology

#15  Postby Spinozasgalt » Feb 13, 2018 11:58 pm

You should play Firewatch. It's really good.

I assume you have played it, since dad's played it and he plays awesome games like that in general.
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Re: A Virtual Ecology

#16  Postby Fallible » Feb 15, 2018 7:39 am

Spinozasgalt wrote:You should play Firewatch. It's really good.

I assume you have played it, since dad's played it and he plays awesome games like that in general.


Your father needs to spend more time doing DIY and less time playing silly games.

I haven't played it, no. Although he keeps pushing games he likes on me, like someone pushing drugs on a teenager.
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Re: A Virtual Ecology

#17  Postby Spinozasgalt » Feb 15, 2018 7:54 am

Firewatch is about a fire lookout fellow in the Shoshone National Forest in 1989. His name is Henry. And his only means of communication out there is his walkie-talkie, which he uses to communicate with his boss. And as he spend his days out there, exploring, a mystery unfolds that seems to herald a conspiracy.

Dun dun DUNNNNN...

I don't think there are drugs though. There's whiskey.
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Re: A Virtual Ecology

#18  Postby Fallible » Feb 15, 2018 7:56 am

I see.
John Grant wrote:They say 'let go, let go, let go, you must learn to let go'.
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Re: A Virtual Ecology

#19  Postby Spinozasgalt » Feb 15, 2018 7:58 am

And did I mention there's a TORTOISE!?!
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Re: A Virtual Ecology

#20  Postby UncertainSloth » Feb 15, 2018 8:32 am

firewatch is awesomesauce..
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