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Re: Added Sugar

#21  Postby Spearthrower » Jan 13, 2020 6:36 pm

Gotta love the weasel words they were obliged to put in lest they get their arses spanked by watchdogs.

we help share the science and facts about how 100% juice can support good health.


If it can support good health, then that good health is already present prior to the addition of juice.


We want to share unbiased information on the benefits of 100% fruit juice drunk in moderation, as part of a healthy lifestyle.


Pizza can be eaten in moderation as part of a healthy lifestyle. Cake can be eaten in moderation as part of a healthy lifestyle. Beer can be drunk in moderation as part of a healthy lifestyle. Nearly anything can be consumed in moderation as part of a healthy lifestyle because it all comes down to that key term: moderation - what 'moderate' represents depends on the food item.


We don’t favour or promote specific brands or products; our role is simply to provide truthful, scientific evidence that shows how 100% fruit juice, along with its vitamins and minerals, can contribute to health and well-being.


Can contribute? Can? Not 'does'?

So in a scenario where a person never drinks water, only drinks beer and soda, if they exchange 1 glass of those a day for 100% juice then that juice is contributing to their health and well-being, albeit if only by omission of a drink worse for health and well-being.

Fucking weasels.
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Re: Added Sugar

#22  Postby I'm With Stupid » Jan 13, 2020 6:37 pm

Yeah that's what I've heard. That consuming fruit juice is basically like injecting sugar, while eating fruit is more of a slow release.

Also I was a bit suspicious about this "non-commercial" Fruit Juice Matters not mentioning who funds them, so I did a quick search and...

co-funded by the European Fruit Juice Association, Citrus BR and three packaging companies.


Which doesn't mean that what they're saying is wrong, but they're hardly impartial, so I'd take their findings with a pinch of salt. Or should that be a teaspoon of sugar?
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Re: Added Sugar

#23  Postby Spearthrower » Jan 13, 2020 6:39 pm

That consuming fruit juice is basically like injecting sugar...


Except a) less needles and b) injecting it doesn't let you taste the sweet! :)
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#24  Postby The_Piper » Jan 13, 2020 6:44 pm

Not that I'm capable of giving great nutrition advice, it makes logical sense to me. That fiber in the actual fruit slows the digestion process, allowing absorption over time. Fruit Juice Matters should have put the following sentence first, rather than last " It is worth noting that European law does not permit the natural sugar content of 100% juices to be artificially increased or reduced."
A lot of fruit juice brands and flavors have added sugar, and that's not too healthy, I'd guess. I have chocolates and ice cream, I don't need fruit juice. It makes my sensitive stomach burn, but I can drink coffee all day. :crazy:
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Re: Added Sugar

#25  Postby Spearthrower » Jan 13, 2020 8:17 pm

The_Piper wrote:
A lot of fruit juice brands and flavors have added sugar, ...


That is fucking crazy - even here in Thailand where the most ridiculous products are artificially sweetened, fruit juice is not.
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#26  Postby I'm With Stupid » Jan 14, 2020 4:48 am

Spearthrower wrote:
The_Piper wrote:
A lot of fruit juice brands and flavors have added sugar, ...


That is fucking crazy - even here in Thailand where the most ridiculous products are artificially sweetened, fruit juice is not.

What if you actually get one freshly made? Everywhere in Vietnam will add sugar to fruit juice unless you specifically ask them not to. In Malaysia, they sometimes add syrup instead, but that's basically the same thing. The other thing that irritated me in Vietnam was sweetened milk. Again, you literally had to go out of your way to find one without sugar. Malaysia has just introduced a sugar tax.
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#27  Postby Spearthrower » Jan 14, 2020 5:07 am

I'm With Stupid wrote:
What if you actually get one freshly made? Everywhere in Vietnam will add sugar to fruit juice unless you specifically ask them not to.


Typically no. Amusingly, you get a packet of pink sugar with a purchase of fruit from a street seller, but most street juice drinks are unsweetened - they're more likely to add salt than sugar.


I'm With Stupid wrote:In Malaysia, they sometimes add syrup instead, but that's basically the same thing. The other thing that irritated me in Vietnam was sweetened milk. Again, you literally had to go out of your way to find one without sugar. Malaysia has just introduced a sugar tax.


Yup, most of this is the same here - it's not a big surprise that Thailand's got one of the biggest problems with obesity in the region, but unlike Malaysia, Thailand never does anything about it.
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