I found this interesting case concerning law of nature.Yes, Law of Nature exist but its not a Law that can't be removed by those who made it..

There is over 1000 cases reported about shuhada(martyrs) bodies that didn't decompose some of them have been buried 4 years or more there bodies was still the same as if they had died hours ago and they had the smell of musk coming from there bodies..

I was reading that the opened a grave 46 years later and the guy was still the same...

Red Cross: Taliban bodies do not decay!
The committee of the American Red Cross has released a report on its webpage regarding the bodies of the dead (martyred) Taliban compared to those of the foreign forces. The mentioned committee which had the duty of collecting and burying the dead in Mazar Sharif province of Afghanistan showed its astonishment as to why the dead bodies of Taliban had not decayed

or gave off foul smell?!! The report said that investigators initially thought that the cold weather was the reason behind this phenomenon however this theory was later shattered because the bodies of the northern alliance fighters which were lying in the same area had decayed and were also giving off a nauseating smell.

The report further says that it now wants to conduct a research on the type of food consumed by the Taliban fighters! The researchers also want to find out if there is a relationship between food and blood because the blood of some Taliban members keeps its warm temperatures even after their death!

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=808_1324 ... WLmV3t7.99

What is a reasoning to this?

Seems like other religions know about the phenomena as well, I just found out it's called in

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incorruptibility

Voltage wrote:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=808_1324 ... WLmV3t7.99

What is a reasoning to this?

Logically the first thing to do is go to the supposed source. In this case the 'Red Cross' and its 2011 report - it would appear this event was so uninteresting that no one even bothered to file a report!

http://www.icrc.org/eng/resources/international-review/review-881-afghanistan/index.jsp

Or it is made up shite - which do you think is more likely?

My shit smells of roses.
Probably a similar phenomenon.

Yeah, I don't know about this article but it is a well known and documented phenomenon not unique to Muslims. In the the Catholic and Eastern Orthodox religion they know it as Incorruptible, where bodies of saints don't decay and give off a sweet fragrance.

I was just wondering about the whole Incorruptibility thing

Voltage wrote:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=808_1324 ... WLmV3t7.99

What is a reasoning to this?

The page you linked to (above) ends with this:

To end, I humbly request from the all the readers to sincerely pray for me that I be able to perform Jihad and in the end be blessed with martyrdom, the virtues of which were mentioned by the beloved Prophet Muhammad (SAW) and for which he himself yearned.

Doctor Muslim Andar

So, even if this report exists, and is as described in your own source, that source claims that it was written by a Muslim doctor who apparently supports the Taliban and wants to be killed fighting the infidels. There is clearly an issue of bias here, to put it mildly. Now, I may be being unkind, but I have the feeling that people who throw acid into the faces of girls because they are attending school might not be above telling a lie on the internet. And that is IF the doctor and his report even exist.

Given that you are actually just posting what looks like Taliban propaganda, do you really expect any of us to take this disgusting rubbish seriously?

Paul Almond wrote:

Voltage wrote:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=808_1324 ... WLmV3t7.99

What is a reasoning to this?

The page you linked to (above) ends with this:

To end, I humbly request from the all the readers to sincerely pray for me that I be able to perform Jihad and in the end be blessed with martyrdom, the virtues of which were mentioned by the beloved Prophet Muhammad (SAW) and for which he himself yearned.

Doctor Muslim Andar

So, even if this report exists, and is as described in your own source, that source claims that it was written by a Muslim doctor who apparently supports the Taliban and wants to be killed fighting the infidels. There is clearly an issue of bias here, to put it mildly. Now, I may be being unkind, but I have the feeling that people who throw acid into the faces of girls because they are attending school might not be above telling a lie on the internet. And that is IF the doctor and his report even exist.

Given that you are actually just posting what looks like Taliban propaganda, do you really expect any of us to take this disgusting rubbish seriously?

I understand, it was just an example of the whole incorruptibility thing that is said to be a mysterious phenomena. I was just seeing if it has been debunked

A correction: "Dr Muslim Andar" is apparently claiming to be writing about the report rather than claiming to be the author of the report (apparently). Not that it makes much difference because it still brings the source into question.

Voltage wrote:Yeah, I don't know about this article but it is a well known and documented phenomenon not unique to Muslims. In the the Catholic and Eastern Orthodox religion they know it as Incorruptible, where bodies of saints don't decay and give off a sweet fragrance.

I was just wondering about the whole Incorruptibility thing

Theists claim a lot of "well known and documented" phenomena - they never come up with the goods when it comes to providing actual evidence though.

In the Middle Ages failure of a body to decompose as expected was held to be evidence of vampirism.

Voltage wrote:

Paul Almond wrote:

Voltage wrote:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=808_1324 ... WLmV3t7.99

What is a reasoning to this?

The page you linked to (above) ends with this:

To end, I humbly request from the all the readers to sincerely pray for me that I be able to perform Jihad and in the end be blessed with martyrdom, the virtues of which were mentioned by the beloved Prophet Muhammad (SAW) and for which he himself yearned.

Doctor Muslim Andar

So, even if this report exists, and is as described in your own source, that source claims that it was written by a Muslim doctor who apparently supports the Taliban and wants to be killed fighting the infidels. There is clearly an issue of bias here, to put it mildly. Now, I may be being unkind, but I have the feeling that people who throw acid into the faces of girls because they are attending school might not be above telling a lie on the internet. And that is IF the doctor and his report even exist.

Given that you are actually just posting what looks like Taliban propaganda, do you really expect any of us to take this disgusting rubbish seriously?

I understand, it was just an example of the whole incorruptibility thing that is said to be a mysterious phenomena. I was just seeing if it has been debunked

What is to be debunked? It is an asserted phenomena with very little if any physical evidence for it. People can make up shit all they like but debunking it is impossible without actually having something to look at and test. Find some bodies that aren't decomposing first then the debunking can begin.

Simply put, you are asking us to debunk what is nothing more than tales. It's a fool's errand.

You need to present actual, verifiable examples of something that might fit the bill. Anecdotes are worthless. There is the need for habeas corpus. Show us the alleged phenomenon. Show us a body which does not decompose. That needs to happen first.

Otherwise you may as well ask us to debunk stories of people flying. There are plenty of those bullshit tales out there attributed to saints and prophets and magicians too.

Looks like there is a rare phenomenon of much delayed decomposition that is not fully understood and has been cited by religions as evidence for their gods, but is simply a rare and incompletely understood event.

http://people.howstuffworks.com/incorruptible2.htm

"Some cases of incorruptibility have been revealed as fraudulent. In other cases where incorruptibility actually did exist, it was further preserved later by embalming the corpse. In the 20th century, the Catholic Church discontinued the practice of using incorruptibility as a prerequisite for sainthood. The Church wasn't responding so much to the fraud of some cases, but to the cases in which incorruptible corpses didn't extol Catholic piety. Members of other religions have been discovered in uncorrupted states. And at least one case of incorruptibility was discovered in a person who clearly hadn't exactly lived a saintly life. Cardinal Shuster, an Italian archbishop, had been a fascist and friend of dictator Benito Mussolini. His corpse was found uncorrupted 31 years after his death [source: Fortean Times]."

Fortean Times?

*phphphbbbbttbtbthththtttt!*

Had never heard of the Fortean Times - will look out for in future

Pebble wrote:Had never heard of the Fortean Times - will look out for in future

A bigger bag of utter woo and bullshit could not be found outside the Internet.

Ok a slightly more reliable source then

http://www.skepdic.com/incorrupt.html

Pebble wrote:Ok a slightly more reliable source then

http://www.skepdic.com/incorrupt.html

Yep. In other words, incorruptibility is bullshit.

Goldenmane wrote:

Pebble wrote:Ok a slightly more reliable source then

http://www.skepdic.com/incorrupt.html

Yep. In other words, incorruptibility is bullshit.

But as I indicated surprisingly differing rates of decomposition are not.