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Re: Home Improvement Discussion

#421  Postby felltoearth » Aug 24, 2020 11:18 pm

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felltoearth wrote:Starting to replace the door knobs now. Look at the layers of paint there. That would be the original 1913 colour there.

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ETA picture. Wow, am I ever having a bad tech day today.

Nice, I love seeing stuff like that. A home improvement fossil. :mrgreen: Replacing a doorknob looks like a detailed job, I'll have to youtube it sometime.

The key is to make sure that the door thickness and the backset matches the lockset you buy. The rest is just repair. It would kill me to throw out and replace a solid wood door.

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My house had awful light green masonite siding when I bought it. My front porch must have been built sometime soon after the siding was put on, because the masonite siding inside the porch on the formerly outside wall is regular green, not light. The outside had faded so much and so evenly that I thought it was supposed to be that light green color. :lol:

Who would ever pay to have cardboard siding put on their entire house?!!
That reminds me, on the back "porch" (it's called an attached wood shed), it must have been built before the front porch because the old house siding in there is wooden shingles. Those must be really old.


Well, all cardboard was wood once. :teef:

Masonite siding isn’t so unusual. It’s pretty durable too. It’s all about the glue that is used.
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Re: Home Improvement Discussion

#422  Postby Ironclad » Oct 25, 2020 7:07 pm

I’m going to be cladding our bathroom with pvc 250mm boards soon and trying to decipher the adhesives we can use. Problem is, the store sells proprietary product and it’s really expensive. Other stores sell what appears to be similar products at half the price, but without the chemical breakdown on the proprietary tubes I can’t tell off I’m getting the correct stuff.
Anyone have experience with cladding?
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Re: Home Improvement Discussion

#423  Postby felltoearth » Oct 25, 2020 7:09 pm

What’s the cladding product?


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Re: Home Improvement Discussion

#424  Postby Ironclad » Oct 25, 2020 7:20 pm

I’m going to be cladding our bathroom with pvc 250mm boards soon and trying to decipher the adhesives we can use. Problem is, the store sells proprietary product and it’s really expensive. Other stores sell what appears to be similar products at half the price, but without the chemical breakdown on the proprietary tubes I can’t tell off I’m getting the correct stuff.
Anyone have experience with cladding?
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#425  Postby Ironclad » Oct 25, 2020 7:22 pm

felltoearth wrote:What’s the cladding product?


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https://www.dbsbathrooms.co.uk/white-ma ... l-cladding
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Re: Home Improvement Discussion

#426  Postby Ironclad » Oct 25, 2020 7:25 pm

Some products are described as adhesive sealants, which I’m sure are either two different things or just a sealant for a panel already adhered.. like the glue gunned sealing one would squirt around a bath, say
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#427  Postby laklak » Oct 25, 2020 7:35 pm

Should be able to use any tub/shower surround adhesive.
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Re: Home Improvement Discussion

#428  Postby Ironclad » Oct 25, 2020 8:04 pm

These cladding panels apparently need half a tube each, and there’s twenty to stick to the wall. So I better get it right first time or I’ll look like a twit sitting in my bath when the walls all melt and bend down on me like a lsd trip.
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#429  Postby laklak » Oct 25, 2020 8:14 pm

I've used ordinary construction adhesive on plastic shower panels and it worked fine. Biggest thing is surface prep, has to be absolutely smooth and clean, and making sure the joints between panels are sealed.
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#430  Postby Ironclad » Oct 25, 2020 8:20 pm

Oh right ok. These I have a clip together, a tongue and groove type. They probably need a clear sealant too I imagine
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#431  Postby Ironclad » Oct 25, 2020 8:21 pm

Ah, and this is going to seal the entire bathroom not just a shower. FWIW
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#432  Postby laklak » Oct 25, 2020 8:35 pm

What's the substrate? Is it water resistant like what we call "green board" here, or are you using a sealant over regular drywall? If the latter, check to see if they want a specific type of adhesive. For green board pretty much any waterproof adhesive works fine.

Run a bead of clear acrylic bathroom caulk in the groove between panels.
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Re: Home Improvement Discussion

#433  Postby Ironclad » Oct 25, 2020 9:17 pm

A plaster skimmed brick wall
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#434  Postby Ironclad » Oct 25, 2020 9:20 pm

Gypsum
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#435  Postby laklak » Oct 25, 2020 9:47 pm

OK that's outside my experience, but I'd be careful going directly over plaster. I've used green board and an oil based water resistant primer the two times I did a plastic shower surround. I've done multiple bathrooms in tile, but that's a different animal.

That said, in the one rental house someone had put up a plastic shower surround directly over an old plaster and lathe wall and it was a stone bitch to get it off the walls. Ripped the plaster right off the lathe. They had used what looked like Liquid Nails construction adhesive.
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Re: Home Improvement Discussion

#436  Postby Ironclad » Oct 25, 2020 10:04 pm

To be fair it’s an old house and this will probably be the last time it gets a major facelift. Most of the walls have been knocked back to the brickwork and re skimmed, the bathroom isn’t too bad so I thought I’d clad it instead.
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Re: Home Improvement Discussion

#437  Postby The_Piper » Oct 26, 2020 7:33 pm

felltoearth wrote:
The_Piper wrote:
felltoearth wrote:Starting to replace the door knobs now. Look at the layers of paint there. That would be the original 1913 colour there.

53A1F997-2224-4ADF-BDA1-78E48CD3C4E0.jpeg


ETA picture. Wow, am I ever having a bad tech day today.

Nice, I love seeing stuff like that. A home improvement fossil. :mrgreen: Replacing a doorknob looks like a detailed job, I'll have to youtube it sometime.

The key is to make sure that the door thickness and the backset matches the lockset you buy. The rest is just repair. It would kill me to throw out and replace a solid wood door.

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My house had awful light green masonite siding when I bought it. My front porch must have been built sometime soon after the siding was put on, because the masonite siding inside the porch on the formerly outside wall is regular green, not light. The outside had faded so much and so evenly that I thought it was supposed to be that light green color. :lol:

Who would ever pay to have cardboard siding put on their entire house?!!
That reminds me, on the back "porch" (it's called an attached wood shed), it must have been built before the front porch because the old house siding in there is wooden shingles. Those must be really old.


Well, all cardboard was wood once. :teef:

Masonite siding isn’t so unusual. It’s pretty durable too. It’s all about the glue that is used.

Yeah I've noticed it on a bunch of houses up here, none of them looking good nowadays. If I knew when mine was put on I could have an opinion on the longevity. The contractors who looked at it refused to paint it because it wouldn't last long. I painted a shed with masonite 2 years ago and it's starting to flake off already.
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Re: Home Improvement Discussion

#438  Postby The_Piper » Oct 26, 2020 7:38 pm

Ironclad wrote:To be fair it’s an old house and this will probably be the last time it gets a major facelift. Most of the walls have been knocked back to the brickwork and re skimmed, the bathroom isn’t too bad so I thought I’d clad it instead.

Have you considered cladding it in iron, Iron? :hide:
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Re: Home Improvement Discussion

#439  Postby Ironclad » Oct 27, 2020 12:46 am

Heh.. no.

So it’s a non solvent I need, any adhesive apparently.
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