Fallible wrote:But KIR, I am sorry - it is ludicrous to say this attack could not have been racially motivated.

Keep It Real wrote:

felltoearth wrote:I wonder if BLM simply declared a “Race Emergency” if KIR would be on board?

Keep It Real wrote:In the past I must confess I thought them (us) rather lacking in tangible realisable objectives, and saw them more as "just" complaining. I learnt today in Bristol that they do in fact have at least one primary real world, potent, excellent and realistic objective - that the UK gov declare a "climate emergency." I am now fully on board with ER.

I'll admit that the current UK government and BLM do share some striking similarities RE irresponsible idiocy, but that's where the comparison largely ends.

In the United States, disproportionate percentages of people of colour live in places that are polluted with toxic waste, leading to negative health effects such as cancer, asthma, degraded cardiac function and high blood pressure. Research has also highlighted that race has a stronger influence on exposure to pollutants than poverty. This means it is likely that polluters not only site their activities in low income areas, but in some cases are actively selecting locations where there are high percentages of Black people in particular.

Climate change intensifies the health impacts of pollution in these communities. For example, higher air temperatures due to global warming traps air pollutants close to the ground, further reducing air quality and exacerbating existing health issues. A recent study of 32 million US births found that women exposed to high temperatures or air pollution are more likely to have premature, underweight or stillborn babies and that Black mothers are most affected.

felltoearth wrote:

Keep It Real wrote:

felltoearth wrote:I wonder if BLM simply declared a “Race Emergency” if KIR would be on board?

Keep It Real wrote:In the past I must confess I thought them (us) rather lacking in tangible realisable objectives, and saw them more as "just" complaining. I learnt today in Bristol that they do in fact have at least one primary real world, potent, excellent and realistic objective - that the UK gov declare a "climate emergency." I am now fully on board with ER.

I'll admit that the current UK government and BLM do share some striking similarities RE irresponsible idiocy, but that's where the comparison largely ends.

Take your feigned disingenuousness and shove it up your arse.

Black Lives Matter: the link between climate change and racial justice / Climate Analytics

In the United States, disproportionate percentages of people of colour live in places that are polluted with toxic waste, leading to negative health effects such as cancer, asthma, degraded cardiac function and high blood pressure. Research has also highlighted that race has a stronger influence on exposure to pollutants than poverty. This means it is likely that polluters not only site their activities in low income areas, but in some cases are actively selecting locations where there are high percentages of Black people in particular.

Climate change intensifies the health impacts of pollution in these communities. For example, higher air temperatures due to global warming traps air pollutants close to the ground, further reducing air quality and exacerbating existing health issues. A recent study of 32 million US births found that women exposed to high temperatures or air pollution are more likely to have premature, underweight or stillborn babies and that Black mothers are most affected.

Keep It Real wrote:

Fallible wrote:But KIR, I am sorry - it is ludicrous to say this attack could not have been racially motivated.

Oh dear, carrying on...I did not say it COULD NOT have been racially motivated - will you PLEASE stop putting words into my mouth?! That's the third time in this single thread, by my count. Exuberant, to be charitable, but really blatant misrepresentation and just plain fucking annoying! I think it's very very very unlikely and totally unproved that this attack was purely motivated by racism and the attackers did not know their victim.

OK, you've got one, only one designation of "like an episode of the Twilight Zone" to use amongst the two options: either it applies the my views as expressed in this thread OR it applies to mowing down a pedestrian in 2020 Bristol UK purely because of the victim's skin colour. You can't use it for both positions as the one is the opposite of the other. Where does your "twilight Zone" go?

Keep It Real wrote:Another thing which just occurred to me - the victim had just finished his shift working at Southmead Hospital and was walking to the bus stop. These "lets run over a black person" hypothesised people - given the adoration and worship given to the NHS these Covid days would they really "go hunting" at a NHS Hospital bus stop frequented by "angelic" NHS staff? Why not Easton or St Paul's?

Keep It Real wrote:

felltoearth wrote:

Keep It Real wrote:

felltoearth wrote:I wonder if BLM simply declared a “Race Emergency” if KIR would be on board?

I'll admit that the current UK government and BLM do share some striking similarities RE irresponsible idiocy, but that's where the comparison largely ends.

Take your feigned disingenuousness and shove it up your arse.

Black Lives Matter: the link between climate change and racial justice / Climate Analytics

In the United States, disproportionate percentages of people of colour live in places that are polluted with toxic waste, leading to negative health effects such as cancer, asthma, degraded cardiac function and high blood pressure. Research has also highlighted that race has a stronger influence on exposure to pollutants than poverty. This means it is likely that polluters not only site their activities in low income areas, but in some cases are actively selecting locations where there are high percentages of Black people in particular.

Climate change intensifies the health impacts of pollution in these communities. For example, higher air temperatures due to global warming traps air pollutants close to the ground, further reducing air quality and exacerbating existing health issues. A recent study of 32 million US births found that women exposed to high temperatures or air pollution are more likely to have premature, underweight or stillborn babies and that Black mothers are most affected.

Correlation =/= causation. I don't like the idea of having things shoved up my arse, so will respond in kind: go suck your mother's cunt.

Avon and Somerset Police said the incident is being treated as a racially aggravated attack due to racist language used by the two occupants of the car - who fled the scene.

Keep It Real wrote:

Spinozasgalt wrote:

Keep It Real wrote:

Spinozasgalt wrote:Can't remember the last time I saw someone on here with such a dogmatic refusal to consider racism as a thing.

You what?

I didn't click. I didn't watch your videos, either. Not much interested in what big ol' transphobes like Zuby have to say.

Woops, I posted the wrong link there by accident - I meant to link you to post #13 of this thread, which you seem to have somehow missed, where I explicitly say that I think racism DOES exist. It's a...shame you dismiss Zuby completely because he thinks transsexualism is stupid, but I guess we all have our prejudices.

Keep It Real wrote:

Spinozasgalt wrote:When you go looking for individuals from oppressed groups to validate your own views about them, you're gonna have to realise that oppressor groups can make it profitable for some individuals from those oppressed groups to confirm and validate the comforting lies those oppressive groups tell about the groups they oppress. It's a way for those oppressive groups to continue to oppress while lifting up individual tokens.

I didn't "go looking" for Zuby and the only group which I look down on with any degree of all inclusivity about this is BLM (who are mostly white it would seem and are ADORED by the sheeple and media, not "oppressed" (drama queen ). Also, have a tinfoil hat on me for thinking Zuby is lying through his teeth just in order to gain followers.

blindfaith wrote:

Keep It Real wrote:
Correlation =/= causation. I don't like the idea of having things shoved up my arse, so will respond in kind: go suck your mother's cunt.

Keep It Real wrote:

blindfaith wrote:

Keep It Real wrote:
Correlation =/= causation. I don't like the idea of having things shoved up my arse, so will respond in kind: go suck your mother's cunt.

It appears you were wrong...perhaps if you "ask me out for a fight" again sorry, I couldn't help myself... your self described "lurking" might achieve something. Quite the dog's ass...no, no....please don't beat me up!!! pathetic beyond words.

Keep It Real wrote:You, cardca, unlike I, will be banned from this forum pretty well as soon as a Mod comes online. If you want to help the situation in the world, set up, build, publicise OUTRAGEOUSLY and promote and love an atheist/rationalist forum in India. I'm having curry for dinner BTW xx

laklak wrote:Go away, boring small person.