Repeal the 8th.

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Repeal the 8th.

#1  Postby Animavore » Mar 30, 2018 5:21 pm

'Bout time. Referendum to be held May 25th.

https://www.google.ie/amp/www.thejourna ... 8/%3famp=1

No campaign with the scare tactics already.

http://www.thejournal.ie/save-8th-launc ... 0-Mar2018/

What strange bedfellows they keep with the people behind the Brexit leave campaign.
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Re: Repeal the 8th.

#2  Postby Thomas Eshuis » Mar 30, 2018 6:50 pm

Animavore wrote:'Bout time. Referendum to be held May 25th.

https://www.google.ie/amp/www.thejourna ... 8/%3famp=1

No campaign with the scare tactics already.

http://www.thejournal.ie/save-8th-launc ... 0-Mar2018/

What strange bedfellows they keep with the people behind the Brexit leave campaign.

On the one hand, the fact that Ireland voted for SSM gives me hope.
On other side, seeing how long this battle has been going on for, I'm worried.
"Respect for personal beliefs = "I am going to tell you all what I think of YOU, but don't dare retort and tell what you think of ME because...it's my personal belief". Hmm. A bully's charter and no mistake."
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Re: Repeal the 8th.

#3  Postby Pebble » Mar 30, 2018 8:06 pm

I think there have been enough horror stories about the malignant effect of the 8th over the years to ensure that a short campaign of disinformation will be insufficient to change peoples mind.
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Re: Repeal the 8th.

#4  Postby Animavore » Mar 30, 2018 8:20 pm

Thomas Eshuis wrote:
Animavore wrote:'Bout time. Referendum to be held May 25th.

https://www.google.ie/amp/www.thejourna ... 8/%3famp=1

No campaign with the scare tactics already.

http://www.thejournal.ie/save-8th-launc ... 0-Mar2018/

What strange bedfellows they keep with the people behind the Brexit leave campaign.

On the one hand, the fact that Ireland voted for SSM gives me hope.
On other side, seeing how long this battle has been going on for, I'm worried.

Like with the SSM referendum, I know people living abroad coming home just to vote.
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Re: Repeal the 8th.

#5  Postby Animavore » Mar 30, 2018 8:21 pm

Pebble wrote:I think there have been enough horror stories about the malignant effect of the 8th over the years to ensure that a short campaign of disinformation will be insufficient to change peoples mind.

Elaborate.

Edit: read 'insufficient' as 'sufficient'.

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Re: Repeal the 8th.

#6  Postby Animavore » Apr 10, 2018 9:39 am

The No campaign's devastating argument. Talk smack about the English and then make Irish people question if we want to be like them.

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Re: Repeal the 8th.

#7  Postby aban57 » Apr 10, 2018 9:54 am

How can it be a baby if it's been aborted ?
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Re: Repeal the 8th.

#8  Postby Rachel Bronwyn » Apr 10, 2018 9:55 am

If you start calling it a baby before it's born.
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Re: Repeal the 8th.

#9  Postby Animavore » Apr 10, 2018 9:56 am

It's not clear on my photo, but there's a light, black 'n' white photo of a baby in the background. All born and in little baby clothes. Sleeping peacefully.
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Re: Repeal the 8th.

#10  Postby zulumoose » Apr 10, 2018 10:20 am

Animavore wrote:It's not clear on my photo, but there's a light, black 'n' white photo of a baby in the background. All born and in little baby clothes. Sleeping peacefully.


It's probably not meant to be clear, it's likely meant to be subliminal, devious bastards.
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Re: Repeal the 8th.

#11  Postby Animavore » Apr 10, 2018 10:25 am

The Yes side is out in force. They have far more people on the ground and seem better organised.
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Re: Repeal the 8th.

#12  Postby I'm With Stupid » Apr 10, 2018 10:49 pm

1 in 5 babies is aborted. I fail to see why that's a bad thing, except possibly as a damning indictment of sex and relationship education.
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#13  Postby cyghost » Apr 11, 2018 6:18 am

And isn't nature's score 1 in 4?
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Re: Repeal the 8th.

#14  Postby Animavore » Apr 13, 2018 5:20 pm

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Re: Repeal the 8th.

#15  Postby Animavore » Apr 14, 2018 5:47 am

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Re: Repeal the 8th.

#16  Postby Thomas Eshuis » Apr 14, 2018 1:10 pm

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Re: Repeal the 8th.

#17  Postby Thommo » Apr 14, 2018 2:42 pm

Is the proposed limit for on demand abortions really 6 months? Or is it going to be 24 weeks or some other number?
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Re: Repeal the 8th.

#18  Postby Animavore » Apr 14, 2018 4:16 pm

This is all to be decided, but I doubt it will be six months, unless there's an exception for fatal foetal anomalies, as in some countries. Most of the No side is taking a look at what happens in other countries, selecting extremes, and representing them as the norm, and asking if people want that here.
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Re: Repeal the 8th.

#19  Postby Thommo » Apr 14, 2018 4:29 pm

Any idea on whether it's likely to go through?
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Re: Repeal the 8th.

#20  Postby Animavore » Apr 14, 2018 5:06 pm

I think it will likely. I don't think fear-mongering works like it did 35 years sgo when the 8th was proposed and passed referendum. Nor does The Church hold sway any more. I notice the latter are very queit right now. A repeat of their silence on the SSM referendum, it's like they suspect a hostile people will do the opposite out of spite. Also, inevitably, someone's gonna point out the obvious with regards their track record on protecting children and humiliate them.

That and polls suggest a Yes win.
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