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Re: The Real History of the Freemasons?

#81  Postby Fallible » Sep 30, 2020 8:35 pm

WTF are you even going on about?
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#82  Postby SafeAsMilk » Sep 30, 2020 11:00 pm

I'm not sure if this would be any better if I gave a shit about the Freemasons.
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Re: The Real History of the Freemasons?

#83  Postby felltoearth » Sep 30, 2020 11:57 pm

Are they the ones that wear fezzes? I like fezzes.
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Re: The Real History of the Freemasons?

#84  Postby laklak » Oct 01, 2020 2:29 am

I think that's the Loyal Order of the Water Buffalo.
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Re: The Real History of the Freemasons?

#85  Postby BlackBart » Oct 01, 2020 7:03 am

galexander wrote:But answer me this.

What are the British ruling classes doing organizing what is clearly a secret society in the United States of America?


Well, they'd be organising a secret society wouldn't they? That's what they'd be doing.



People in the know in the UK sometimes boast that they can "say" something in the US, I've heard them say it myself.



I know things and I've "Said" something in the United States. I said, "I'd like a hotdog please". Several people heard me say it.

But how does this work exactly?


Well I went up to the guy with the hotdog cart and made sounds with my mouth that the guy understood as a request for a hotdog. He then put a sausage in a bread roll, put some onions and mustard on it and gave it to me.

It was very nice.
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Re: The Real History of the Freemasons?

#86  Postby blindfaith » Oct 01, 2020 9:57 am

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What are the British ruling classes doing organizing what is clearly a secret society in the United States of America?


hey galaxander, if the society is common knowledge, how can it be secret?
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Re: The Real History of the Freemasons?

#87  Postby galexander » Oct 01, 2020 11:56 am

blindfaith wrote:galaxander wrote:
What are the British ruling classes doing organizing what is clearly a secret society in the United States of America?


hey galaxander, if the society is common knowledge, how can it be secret?


Secret societies can have an overt, public front to them and then everything else takes place behind closed doors and is secret.

One example is the Japanese Mafia, the Yakuza. They have a public front (a completely bogus one) where they are keen to portray themselves as performing a public service (gang bosses have even been known to appear on TV), and then they have a very secretive side where they are involved in criminal activity.

Another example are government secret services. Everyone knows they exist and they have a very public front, but then everything they actually do is a complete secret.
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Re: The Real History of the Freemasons?

#88  Postby Fallible » Oct 01, 2020 2:13 pm

Did they black ball you?
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#89  Postby laklak » Oct 01, 2020 3:05 pm

galexander wrote:What are the British ruling classes doing organizing what is clearly a secret society in the United States of America?


In another post you said the Freemasons were instrumental in the American Revolution. So the "ruling classes" were what, working against their own interests? Plus, there wasn't a United States at the time, so the question is moot.

At least be consistent within your own fantasy.
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Re: The Real History of the Freemasons?

#90  Postby The_Piper » Oct 01, 2020 3:34 pm

I used to walk around in a postal uniform delivering mail, but it was a front for "the shop". The same government organization who wanted to kidnap the Firestarter girl. She was suspected to be bouncing around between apartments in residential neighborhoods. We never did find her, but I did identify a few problematic dogs by getting bitten by them. :dopey:

I just got an ad on FB for a Freemason site, even though I haven't clicked anything to do with them except this thread. "The Shop" is surveiling me now. I've already said too much!
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Re: The Real History of the Freemasons?

#91  Postby galexander » Oct 01, 2020 3:56 pm

laklak wrote:
galexander wrote:What are the British ruling classes doing organizing what is clearly a secret society in the United States of America?


In another post you said the Freemasons were instrumental in the American Revolution. So the "ruling classes" were what, working against their own interests? Plus, there wasn't a United States at the time, so the question is moot.

At least be consistent within your own fantasy.


Hilarious.

And that's exactly why I didn't want my two separate threads merged because they are actually quite different and I wanted to avoid confusion!

The first, "The Real History of the Freemasons?" suggested that the original Freemasons of the 18th century were liberal progressives/revolutionary and that soon after this the conservative state took the whole thing over.

My second thread, which has now been grafted onto the end of the first, "Who are the American Freemasons?", refers to the later period when the take over by a conservative state (in this case British) has already taken place.

Clear now?
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Re: The Real History of the Freemasons?

#92  Postby Svartalf » Oct 01, 2020 3:59 pm

felltoearth wrote:Are they the ones that wear fezzes? I like fezzes.

but bowties are still cooler.
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Re: The Real History of the Freemasons?

#93  Postby laklak » Oct 01, 2020 4:00 pm

galexander wrote:

Clear now?


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Re: The Real History of the Freemasons?

#94  Postby Thommo » Oct 01, 2020 4:04 pm

BlackBart wrote:Well I went up to the guy with the hotdog cart and made sounds with my mouth that the guy understood as a request for a hotdog. He then put a sausage in a bread roll, put some onions and mustard on it and gave it to me.

It was very nice.


So you say. But that's just what you'd like me to believe isn't it?
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Re: The Real History of the Freemasons?

#95  Postby galexander » Oct 01, 2020 7:00 pm

Fallible wrote:Did they black ball you?


Are you suggesting that the Freemasons can actually blackball you?
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Re: The Real History of the Freemasons?

#96  Postby BlackBart » Oct 01, 2020 7:10 pm

It's what they literally do, Einstein.

https://freemasonry.network/masonic-str ... eemasonry/
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#97  Postby BlackBart » Oct 01, 2020 8:26 pm

Thommo wrote:
BlackBart wrote:Well I went up to the guy with the hotdog cart and made sounds with my mouth that the guy understood as a request for a hotdog. He then put a sausage in a bread roll, put some onions and mustard on it and gave it to me.

It was very nice.


So you say. But that's just what you'd like me to believe isn't it?


Well... The onions were a bit overdone TBH.
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Re: The Real History of the Freemasons?

#98  Postby Fallible » Oct 07, 2020 8:23 pm

galexander wrote:
Fallible wrote:Did they black ball you?


Are you suggesting that the Freemasons can actually blackball you?


I don’t really care, I’m just bored.
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Re: The Real History of the Freemasons?

#99  Postby zeeble » Oct 22, 2020 12:15 pm

Just an observation my job has an undercurrent of Freemasons, and a weird nepotistic underbelly to them.
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Re: The Real History of the Freemasons?

#100  Postby Svartalf » Oct 22, 2020 2:32 pm

Yeah, anything we did not already know?
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