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Re: Trump COVID-19

#241  Postby OlivierK » Jul 15, 2020 2:47 am

They’re saying, ‘Produce more food,’ regardless of the cost to workers. If companies cared as much about their workers as they do about their chickens, we’d be a better country.”

Careful what you wish for. Those companies treat their chickens even worse, and none of the billionaires who own such companies would ever stoop to eating the food they produce.
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#242  Postby aban57 » Jul 20, 2020 10:49 am

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#243  Postby Seabass » Jul 21, 2020 9:36 am

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#244  Postby felltoearth » Jul 21, 2020 4:44 pm

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Re: Trump COVID-19

#245  Postby Svartalf » Jul 21, 2020 5:07 pm

yeah, I don't quite get how urinating in public would be preferable to wearing one of those things, or going your way if you're too proud to submit to wearing one while going in a place of business...
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#246  Postby Seabass » Jul 21, 2020 6:27 pm

:rofl:


People who refuse to wear a coronavirus face mask have LOWER cognitive ability, experts say

PEOPLE who refuse to wear a face mask to reduce the risk of coronavirus have lower cognitive ability, new research has found.

Choosing to follow social distancing rules may depend on how much information the working memory can hold, experts say.

Working memory is the psychological process of holding information in the mind for a brief period of time - typically, just seconds.

Scientists say its capacity is predictive of many mental abilities such as intelligence, comprehension, and learning.

The new study, published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, looked at compliance of social distancing rules in the early stages of the coronavirus pandemic.

Researchers at the University of California found people with higher working memory capacity have an increased awareness of benefits over costs of social distancing.

As a result, they also show more compliance when it came to following the guidelines during the early stage of the Covid-19 outbreak.

Weiwei Zhang, an associate professor of psychology who co-authored the paper, said: "The higher the working memory capacity, the more likely that social distancing behaviours will follow.

"Interestingly, this relationship holds even after we statistically control for relevant psychological and socioeconomic factors such as depressed and anxious moods, personality traits, education, intelligence, and income."

The researchers surveyed 850 Americans between March 15 and March 23 - the first two weeks the US declared a national emergency due to Covid.

People were asked to complete a set of questions about whether they were observing social distancing rules, their mood and feelings.

Personality variables, intelligence, and participants' understanding about the costs and benefits of social distancing practice were measured also.

Prof Zhang said: "Our findings reveal a novel cognitive root of social distancing compliance during the early stage of the Covid-19 pandemic.

"We found social distancing compliance may rely on an effortful decision process of evaluating the costs versus benefits of these behaviours in working memory - instead of, say, mere habit.

"This decisional process can be less effortful for people with larger working memory capacity, potentially leading to more social distancing behaviours."

He added that their findings suggest that policymakers need to consider people's general cognitive abilities when promoting compliance behaviours, such as wearing a face mask.

"The message in such materials should be succinct, concise, and brief," Prof Zhang said.

"Make the decision process easy for people."


https://www.the-sun.com/news/1134404/people-refuse-wear-face-mask-lower-cognitive-ability/
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#247  Postby Seabass » Jul 21, 2020 6:44 pm

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Psychopathic traits linked to non-compliance with social distancing guidelines amid the coronavirus pandemic

New research provides some initial evidence that certain antagonistic personality traits are associated with ignoring preventative measures meant to halt the spread of the novel coronavirus SARS-CoV-2.

The study has been peer reviewed and accepted for publication in the journal Social Psychology and Personality Science. It is currently available on the PsyArXiv preprint website.

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“This includes personality, or the study of important ways in which people differ. It was clear from reports in the media very early in the COVID-19 pandemic that some people were rejecting advice to socially distance and engage in increased hygiene. There can be many reasons for this, and I thought that personality may play at least a small role in it.”

“I knew that traits from the so-called Dark Triad (narcissism, Machiavellianism, and psychopathy) as well as the traits subsumed within psychopathy are linked to health risk behavior and health problems, and I expected them to be implicated in health behaviors during the pandemic. There is also prior research suggesting that people high on the Dark Triad traits may knowingly and even deliberately put other people’s health at risk, e.g., by engaging in risky sexual behavior and not telling their partner about having HIV or STIs,” Blagov told PsyPost.

“Early in the pandemic, and in subsequent months, there were numerous reports of individuals purposefully coughing, spitting, or even licking door handles in public, either as a way to intimidate others or as a way to rebel against the emerging new norms of social distancing and hygiene. I was curious whether the Dark Triad and psychopathy-related traits may help explain such behavior.”

https://www.psypost.org/2020/06/psychopathic-traits-linked-to-non-compliance-with-social-distancing-guidelines-amid-the-coronavirus-pandemic-56980
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Re: Trump COVID-19

#248  Postby Tero » Jul 22, 2020 2:25 pm

Blog entry:
Our Failure At Social Distancing

https://esapolitics.blogspot.com/2020/0 ... ncing.html
How American politics goes
1 Republicans cut tax, let everything run down to barely working...8 years
2 Democrats fix public spending to normal...8 years
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#249  Postby Seabass » Jul 23, 2020 10:16 pm

Jackass Republican compares mask mandates to Nazism, then uploads a video in which he destroys surgical masks with a blowtorch and chainsaw.

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#250  Postby Seabass » Jul 24, 2020 7:52 am

Panera Karen’ claims masks won’t stop COVID-19 since pants don’t contain farts
video: https://nypost.com/2020/07/22/panera-karen-masks-dont-stop-covid-19-since-pants-dont-contain-farts/
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#251  Postby Seabass » Jul 24, 2020 8:33 am

Man in MAGA hat flashes his gun when asked to follow his state's mask order

An 18-year-old restaurant employee has described how a supporter of Donald Trump’s apparently threatened him with a gun after being told to follow his state’s order to wear face masks indoors.

Arlo Kinsey was working his usual shift at RJ’s Bob-Be-Que Shack in Mission, Kansas when an unmasked man in a Make America Great Again hat walked up to the carryout counter.

Mr Kinsey told the Kansas City Star that he asked the man to put on a mask. The man responded by saying he had an exemption to the state’s mask order – and showing Mr Kinsey his gun, holstered on his hip.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/kansas-man-maga-hat-gun-coronavirus-us-mask-order-a9617361.html
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#252  Postby PensivePenny » Jul 24, 2020 1:01 pm

Seabass wrote:Panera Karen’ claims masks won’t stop COVID-19 since pants don’t contain farts
video: https://nypost.com/2020/07/22/panera-karen-masks-dont-stop-covid-19-since-pants-dont-contain-farts/


Considering that hydrogen sulfide, the molecule responsible for the "fart smell", is about 192 pm across and Covid-19 is about 125,000 pm in diameter... oh never mind. She wouldn't understand.
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#253  Postby newolder » Jul 24, 2020 2:13 pm

Seabass wrote:Panera Karen’ claims masks won’t stop COVID-19 since pants don’t contain farts
video: https://nypost.com/2020/07/22/panera-karen-masks-dont-stop-covid-19-since-pants-dont-contain-farts/


Masks don't prevent gas flow, so mask wearers don't suffocate. Is how I read that.

Does Panera person think surgeons wear masks as fashion accessories? :doh:
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Re: Trump COVID-19

#254  Postby PensivePenny » Jul 24, 2020 2:19 pm

newolder wrote:
Seabass wrote:Panera Karen’ claims masks won’t stop COVID-19 since pants don’t contain farts
video: https://nypost.com/2020/07/22/panera-karen-masks-dont-stop-covid-19-since-pants-dont-contain-farts/


Masks don't prevent gas flow, so mask wearers don't suffocate. Is how I read that.

Does Panera person think surgeons wear masks as fashion accessories? :doh:


Yup. I've posed that to some of these local Qanon followers that claim CO2 buidup is against their religion or some other horseshit. The cognitive dissonant crowd has a leg up on the skeptics. In their little world echo chamber they really CAN have it both ways. :crazy:
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Re: Trump COVID-19

#255  Postby Rachel Bronwyn » Jul 24, 2020 2:28 pm

An old man friend of mine named Howard who is from Illinois did tell me that because farts can get through your ass cheeks, underpants and pants the virus must be able to get through cloth masks.

I tried to explain to him that fart particles and how they move is actually really different from COVID-19, namely COVID-19 needing a liquid medium to travel which is largely caught by cloth. His love of America though makes it difficult to listen, I find.
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Re: Trump COVID-19

#256  Postby SafeAsMilk » Jul 24, 2020 6:56 pm

Our brainfarts are precious here.
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#257  Postby OlivierK » Jul 24, 2020 11:04 pm

PensivePenny wrote:
Seabass wrote:Panera Karen’ claims masks won’t stop COVID-19 since pants don’t contain farts
video: https://nypost.com/2020/07/22/panera-karen-masks-dont-stop-covid-19-since-pants-dont-contain-farts/


Considering that hydrogen sulfide, the molecule responsible for the "fart smell", is about 192 pm across and Covid-19 is about 125,000 pm in diameter... oh never mind. She wouldn't understand.

COVID could be smaller, and it wouldn't matter. What's important isn't so much the size of the holes, it's what percentage of the mask is material, and what percentage is hole. Here's a close-up of some cotton fabric:

ImageCotton fabric, 40x by ZEISS Microscopy, on Flickr

If you cough on that, then if a COVID molecule hits a hole, it's going straight through, no matter how many microns big it is. 97% chance though, it doesn't hit a hole. A second layer will stop a big chunk of whatever makes it through the first.

Now, if you're teeming with COVID, you could be coughing a LOT of COVID molecules in one cough, so some will probably still get through, but way, WAY less than if you weren't wearing a mask, and it's all about trying to stack the odds against transmission, so it's plainly better to wear one.

Edited to add: of course you can get to close to 100% protection by using a high-grade mask with tiny holes, just talking about regular cloth masks here, where the holes are, indeed, large compared to the molecules you're trying to intercept.
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Re: Trump COVID-19

#258  Postby Seabass » Jul 25, 2020 6:22 am

Walmart shopper charged with pulling gun during mask dispute
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/walmart-shopper-charged-with-pulling-gun-during-mask-dispute/

The argument began when Estrada's young daughter almost walked into Scavetta and his father. The men agreed in their statements that Estrada told Scavetta he should wear a mask and Scavetta cursed at him. Estrada told Scavetta not to curse in front of his daughter.

Video shows the men were about 10 feet apart and yelling obscenities at each other, when Scavetta raised his middle finger at Estrada, who advanced at Scavetta pointing his umbrella, investigators said. Another shopper interceded and Scavetta started to walk away. Estrada said something more to Scavetta, who pulled a gun from his waistband and pointed it at Estrada, whose daughter grabbed him by the hand and tried to pull him away.
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Re: Trump COVID-19

#259  Postby Animavore » Jul 25, 2020 12:02 pm

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#260  Postby Rachel Bronwyn » Jul 25, 2020 1:39 pm

He won't change his tune.
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