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Re: Trump COVID-19

#301  Postby Hermit » Oct 19, 2020 6:22 am

OlivierK wrote:Having a playbook is no use to people who are uninterested in actually governing.

Especially in a country where 50 states basically make up their own policies in regard to how they deal with the pandemic. 29 of them are Republican controlled. It takes just one state without restrictions to undermine efforts by other states to contain the spread of the virus. South Dakota is a prime example.

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#302  Postby Seabass » Oct 20, 2020 7:00 pm

John Oliver discusses the crucial role of the World Health Organization, why Donald Trump is skeptical of it, and how his plans to withdraw the United States could have dire consequences.

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#303  Postby Seabass » Oct 24, 2020 8:44 pm

Wherever Trump holds a hate rally we also see a huge spike in hate crimes and viral outbreaks. Remember, these are the people who espouse a worldview that says immigrants and minorities are inherently filthy, diseased, and violent.

Trump’s campaign made stops nationwide. Coronavirus cases surged in his wake in at least five places.
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#304  Postby Challenger007 » Oct 29, 2020 8:51 am

Seabass wrote:Wherever Trump holds a hate rally we also see a huge spike in hate crimes and viral outbreaks. Remember, these are the people who espouse a worldview that says immigrants and minorities are inherently filthy, diseased, and violent.

Trump’s campaign made stops nationwide. Coronavirus cases surged in his wake in at least five places.


So wherever mass events are held, the number of cases increases. In close proximity, in a crowd of people, the virus is transmitted like wildfire. I do not understand why the crowds gather and what people who come voluntarily think think. It feels like there is no instinct for self-preservation.
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#305  Postby aban57 » Oct 29, 2020 9:13 am

It's group thinking. Oner person in the group does the thinking for the rest. And this person is Trump.
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#306  Postby Seabass » Nov 03, 2020 6:29 am

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#307  Postby Seabass » Nov 11, 2020 11:54 pm

We’ve all heard how U.S. leadership failed its citizens with its pandemic response. We had the playbooks, we had the money, we had the experts. We just … didn’t use them.

But it turns out, other countries did. Because U.S. public health leaders and scientists have been planning for a catastrophe just like Covid-19 for decades, and, in typical American fashion, we didn’t just write the pandemic playbook — we exported it around the world.

In this video, we went searching for evidence that the public health innovations and scientific progress this country is famous for are still alive and well. Our journey to find lifesaving American initiatives introduced us to some interesting people: from a virus hunter in the bat caves in Thailand to a group of South Korean epidemiologists who just might have predicted this pandemic.

What we found doesn’t change the fact that more than 220,000 Americans have died from Covid-19, but it sheds light on a part of the U.S. pandemic response that hasn’t gotten a lot of attention: that America’s decades of pandemic planning actually did save lives. Just not at home.


How America Helped Stop Covid-19. Just Not in the U.S. | NYT Opinion
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#308  Postby felltoearth » Nov 12, 2020 6:13 pm

Well, actually, Canada wrote the playbook with the first SARS outbreak in the aughts. The US built on that.


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#309  Postby aban57 » Nov 13, 2020 3:35 pm

Seabass wrote:
We’ve all heard how U.S. leadership failed its citizens with its pandemic response. We had the playbooks, we had the money, we had the experts. We just … didn’t use them.

But it turns out, other countries did. Because U.S. public health leaders and scientists have been planning for a catastrophe just like Covid-19 for decades, and, in typical American fashion, we didn’t just write the pandemic playbook — we exported it around the world.

In this video, we went searching for evidence that the public health innovations and scientific progress this country is famous for are still alive and well. Our journey to find lifesaving American initiatives introduced us to some interesting people: from a virus hunter in the bat caves in Thailand to a group of South Korean epidemiologists who just might have predicted this pandemic.

What we found doesn’t change the fact that more than 220,000 Americans have died from Covid-19, but it sheds light on a part of the U.S. pandemic response that hasn’t gotten a lot of attention: that America’s decades of pandemic planning actually did save lives. Just not at home.


How America Helped Stop Covid-19. Just Not in the U.S. | NYT Opinion


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#310  Postby Seabass » Nov 22, 2020 4:33 am


Midwest Nurses Say Their Hospitals Are On The Verge Of Collapsing — And Leaders Aren’t Listening

Cheryl Rodarmel, the chief nurse at the Research Medical Center in Kansas City, Missouri, said she is not sure how much longer she can go on like this.

The 61-year-old has loved her job for all 42 years she has been a nurse. But now, she said, the relentless influx of COVID-19 patients who have deluged her wards has her worried that her hospital system will collapse, and most of the staff along with it due to burnout and contracting the virus themselves. Meanwhile, outside the hospital, too many of her fellow residents refuse to wear a mask or otherwise protect themselves and their communities from the virus, driving infection rates ever higher.


“Those in positions of power are still allowing this virus to run unchecked,” she said. “If we continue like this, we won't have the nurses, beds, or ability to care for everyone.”

Across Kansas and Missouri, as intensive care units fill to capacity and beyond with patients struggling to breathe, an increasingly alarmed chorus of medical professionals are echoing Rodarmel’s worries. This week, Kansas posted a seven-day record for new coronavirus cases. In nearly two days, 5,853 people tested positive and 60 others died. In the first two weeks of November, Missouri recorded more COVID cases — nearly 60,000 — than it did during any other month since the pandemic began. The state’s current positivity rate is a whopping 27%.


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#311  Postby The_Metatron » Nov 22, 2020 4:07 pm

felltoearth wrote:Well, actually, Canada wrote the playbook with the first SARS outbreak in the aughts. The US built on that.


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#312  Postby The_Piper » Nov 22, 2020 9:34 pm

Molson's about my favorite. LaBatt is pretty good. I'm not a beer afficiondo though.
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Re: Trump COVID-19

#313  Postby felltoearth » Nov 23, 2020 12:18 am

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felltoearth wrote:Well, actually, Canada wrote the playbook with the first SARS outbreak in the aughts. The US built on that.


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Yes, but I'm told that Canadian beer is bad.

Better than American, worse than European. There was a good Brewery that started up in the 90s, a grandson of a retired brewmaster. Then Molsons bought them and it went to crap. My favorite Canadian pilsner was also by a microbrew that was bought by Molsons. They changed the recipe and it’s middling to terrible now.


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#314  Postby Challenger007 » Nov 30, 2020 2:10 pm

felltoearth wrote:
The_Metatron wrote:
felltoearth wrote:Well, actually, Canada wrote the playbook with the first SARS outbreak in the aughts. The US built on that.


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Better than American, worse than European. There was a good Brewery that started up in the 90s, a grandson of a retired brewmaster. Then Molsons bought them and it went to crap. My favorite Canadian pilsner was also by a microbrew that was bought by Molsons. They changed the recipe and it’s middling to terrible now.


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Decent beers come across, but cooler than German beer I have not tasted. Czech is at the same level. The rest still need to evolve to their level. Although, if desired, many types of beer can be drunk. Especially if you have pizza or some other delicious food that goes well with beer.
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#315  Postby The_Piper » Nov 30, 2020 2:40 pm

We have plenty of craft beers, if that's what they're called. Small brewers. I mean, Brewer Maine is right next to Bangor. :mrgreen: Portland was ranked in the top 10 beer cities. Not that Portland, the other Portland. The Portland with a woodchuck farm just across the river bay.
I've tried a few, but I prefer light beer. I don't really like the taste of beer is why. :shifty:
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#316  Postby Seabass » Dec 05, 2020 11:30 pm

Wyoming health official says 'so-called pandemic' a communist plot


CASPER, Wyo. — A Wyoming Department of Health official involved in the state's response to the coronavirus questioned the legitimacy of the pandemic and described a forthcoming vaccine as a biological weapon at a recent event.

The “so-called pandemic” and efforts to develop a vaccine are plots by Russia and China to spread communism worldwide, department readiness and countermeasures manager Igor Shepherd said at the Nov. 10 event held by the group Keep Colorado Free and Open.

Shepherd was introduced as and talked about being a Wyoming Department of Health employee in the hour-plus presentation in Loveland, Colorado.


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#317  Postby Seabass » Dec 05, 2020 11:30 pm

Secrecy and spin: How Florida’s governor misled the public on the COVID-19 pandemic


Throughout the COVID-19 crisis in Florida, Gov. Ron DeathSantis’ administration engaged in a pattern of spin and concealment that misled the public on the gravest health threat the state has ever faced, a South Florida Sun Sentinel investigation has found.

DeathSantis, who owes his job to early support from President Donald Trump, imposed an approach in line with the views of the president and his powerful base of supporters. The administration suppressed unfavorable facts, dispensed dangerous misinformation, dismissed public health professionals, and promoted the views of scientific dissenters who supported the governor’s approach to the disease.

The DeathSantis administration’s approach to managing COVID-19 information carries costs. It supports a climate in which people proudly disdain masks, engage in dangerous group activities that could spread the disease, and brush aside information that conflicts with their political views. With partygoers packing Florida bars and holiday travelers filling hotels and guest rooms, the state faces a few difficult months before the possible relief of vaccines.

These findings are based on interviews with more than 50 people, including scientists, doctors, political leaders, employees of the state health department, and other state officials, as well as more than 4,000 pages of documents:

  • The Florida Department of Health’s county-level spokespeople were ordered in September to stop issuing public statements about COVID-19 until after the Nov. 3 election.
  • The DeathSantis administration refused to reveal details about the first suspected cases in Florida, then denied the virus was spreading from person to person — despite mounting evidence that it was.
  • State officials withheld information about infections in schools, prisons, hospitals and nursing homes, relenting only under pressure or legal action from family members, advocacy groups and journalists.
  • The DeathSantis administration brushed aside scientists and doctors who advocated conventional approaches to fighting the virus, preferring scientists on the fringes who backed the governor’s positions.
  • The governor’s spokesman regularly takes to Twitter to spread misinformation about the disease, including the false claim that COVID was less deadly than the flu.
  • The governor highlighted statistics that would paint the rosiest picture possible and attempted to cast doubt on the validity of Florida’s rising death toll.

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#318  Postby Seabass » Dec 05, 2020 11:39 pm


The U.S. Has Passed the Hospital Breaking Point


Since the beginning of the pandemic, public-health experts have warned of one particular nightmare. It is possible, they said, for the number of coronavirus patients to exceed the capacity of hospitals in a state or city to take care of them. Faced with a surge of severely ill people, doctors and nurses will have to put beds in hallways, spend less time with patients, and become more strict about whom they admit into the hospital at all. The quality of care will fall; Americans who need hospital beds for any other reason—a heart attack, a broken leg—will struggle to find space. Many people will unnecessarily suffer and die.

“If, in fact, there’s a scenario that’s very severe, it is conceivable that will happen,” Anthony Fauci, the nation’s top infectious-disease doctor, said in mid-March. “We’re doing everything we can to not allow that worst-case scenario to happen.”

Fear of this scenario drove many of the most stringent stay-at-home orders in the spring. “There will be no normally functioning economy if our hospitals are overwhelmed,” Liz Cheney, a leading House Republican, said a week and a half later.

Yet that worst-case scenario never came to pass at a national level. At the springtime peak, even as northeastern hospitals faced a deluge, 60,000 people were hospitalized nationwide. When the Sun Belt frothed with cases this summer, hospitalizations again reached the 60,000 mark before they started to fall.

A month ago, in early November, hospitalizations passed 60,000—and kept climbing, quickly. On Wednesday, the country tore past a nauseating virus record. For the first time since the pandemic began, more than 100,000 people were hospitalized with COVID-19 in the United States, nearly double the record highs seen during the spring and summer surges.

The pandemic nightmare scenario—the buckling of hospital and health-care systems nationwide—has arrived. Several lines of evidence are now sending us the same message: Hospitals are becoming overwhelmed, causing them to restrict whom they admit and leading more Americans to die needlessly.

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/12/the-worst-case-scenario-is-happening-hospitals-are-overwhelmed/617301/
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#319  Postby Seabass » Dec 05, 2020 11:45 pm

America in 2020: Heard the one about the Jewish doctor, the Black nurse and the Nazi patient?


A thought experiment: Imagine that you are a doctor. Moreover, imagine that you are a doctor who is Jewish or Muslim or Black or brown or gay or lesbian or trans or differently abled, or a member of some other group which the Nazis and other white supremacists are likely to deem subhuman and not worthy of life.

What would you do if a neo-Nazi or an obvious white supremacist emblazoned with emblems of hate came into your emergency room, critically ill with from COVID-19?

Dr. Taylor Nichols, an emergency room physician at Mercy San Juan Medical Center in Carmichael, California, recently had that experience. On Monday, Nichols shared this on Twitter:
He came in by ambulance short of breath. Already on CPAP by EMS. Still, he was clearly working hard to breathe. He looked sick. Uncomfortable. Scared.

As we got him over to the gurney and his shirt off to switch a a hospital gown, we all noticed the number of Nazi tattoos.

He was solidly built. Older. His methamphetamine use over the years had taken its usual toll and his teeth were all but gone.

The swastika stood out boldly on his chest. SS tattoos and other insignia that had previously been covered by his shirt were now obvious to the room.

"Don't let me die, doc." He said breathlessly as the RT switched him over from CPAP by EMS to our mask and machine.

I reassured him that we were all going to work hard to take care of him and keep him alive as best as we could.

All of us being a team that included a Jewish physician, a Black nurse, and an Asian respiratory therapist.

We all saw. The symbols of hate on his body outwardly and proudly announced his views. We all knew what he thought of us. How he valued our lives.

Yet here we were, working seamlessly as a team to make sure we gave him the best chance to survive that we could. All while wearing masks, gowns, face shields, gloves. The moment perfectly captured what we are going though as healthcare workers as this pandemic accelerates.



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#320  Postby Seabass » Dec 07, 2020 2:21 am

So Republicans bemoan "blue state bailouts" even though red states need help much more than blue ones. And Republicans are actually defunding the police even as they accuse Democrats of doing so.


The GOP Is Fighting to Block Red-State Bailouts


For eight months now, Mitch McConnell has been preventing the federal government from providing fiscal aid to America’s state and municipal governments. The Senate Majority Leader and his far-right colleagues have obstructed such aid even though:

The Chamber of Commerce and National Governors Association (NGA) have both lobbied Congress in favor of fiscal relief, while Republican senators from Louisiana and Mississippi sponsored a bill that would have delivered $500 billion worth of it.

The federal government can borrow money at near-zero interest rates and print the world’s reserve currency, while states and cities cannot. Thus, if Uncle Sam does not share his fiscal capacity with America’s sub-federal governments, they will need to raise taxes or slash spending — precisely what you don’t want the public sector to do amid low inflation and high unemployment.

Since fiscal aid to states is a top Democratic priority, opposing the policy meant killing any prospect for a second stimulus package, which meant allowing many of the CARES Act’s relief measures to expire before Election Day, which very well might have cost Donald Trump reelection.

McConnell articulated the right’s rationale for opposing fiscal aid in mid-April, when he suggested cash-strapped states should file for bankruptcy, and then circulated a memo of anti-fiscal-relief talking points titled, “Stopping Blue State Bailouts.” That phrase, and the idea it conveyed — that delivering fiscal aid to states really meant bailing out corrupt Democratic machines — came to dominate right-wing media coverage of the issue, thereby reinforcing the Senate GOP’s intransigence.

This week, a bipartisan group of senators reached agreement around a framework for a $908 billion COVID relief package. The Democratic Party’s congressional leaders have endorsed the outline. It includes $160 billion in aid to states, a small fraction of what some congressional Republicans and governors have called for. And yet, as of this writing, McConnell has refused to endorse the framework, while Senate conservatives have lambasted it for its provision on state aid. Florida senator Rick Scott suggested he might oppose such legislation, as it would “spend hundreds of billions of dollars in taxpayer money to bail out wasteful states.”

It’s not often that one hears a senator disparage the state they represent. Yet that is, apparently, what Scott did Thursday. After all, few “wasteful states” need federal aid more desperately than his own. As the Orlando Sentinel reports:

Facing a $2.7 billion budget shortfall, legislative leaders are searching for ways to raise new revenue, although not through tax hikes, along with cuts to education and health care to fill the gap when they return to the Capitol in March.

The shortfall for the budget year that begins in July was caused by a series of falling dominoes, starting when the coronavirus pandemic shut down the tourism industry in the spring and early summer.


Six of the seven states projected to suffer the largest revenue declines over the next two years voted for Donald Trump in 2020, and are run by Republican governors, according to a report from Moody’s Analytics. Florida is among America’s most cash-strapped states, facing a revenue decline of more than 10 percent.

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