What are the healthiest diets?

Spearthrower · **#81** by **Spearthrower** » Feb 18, 2012 8:10 pm

Mike_L wrote:
quas wrote:

Similarly, I've yet to see a newspaper report about a health-food devotee attaining some sort of super-longevity.
Just about every centenarian who is celebrated in the news is asked the question, "What's your secret?"
And just about every one (certainly of those that I've read) replies that he/she has followed a perfectly standard diet.
It's pretty well established that longevity hinges primarily on genetics, with other 'health factors' making only a small contribution. (I think it was back in 2004 that Time Magazine had a very comprehensive article on the subject).

Most of the ones I've read about smoked, drank, and ate very simple meals lacking in diversity.

Then again, if you look at the places in the world where there is true statistically relevant longevity, they do have some very particular diets.

Spearthrower · **#82** by **Spearthrower** » Feb 18, 2012 8:11 pm

Mike_L wrote:
quas wrote:...but mostly it has to do with the restriction in caloric intake. Half-starving has been consistently proven to increase longevity in all organisms from bacteria and yeast cells to rats and monkeys.

The CRON Diet (Calorie Restriction with Optimal Nutrition)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cron_diet

Way too Spartan for me!

Yeah, I'd rather live 10 or 20 years less and not spend it half-starved!

Paul G · **#83** by **Paul G** » Feb 18, 2012 11:46 pm

Scot Dutchy wrote:
Alan B wrote:
Scot Dutchy wrote:
HughMcB wrote:I just munched down a spicy squid and octopus stir-fry for lunch I made.

*pats back smugly*

Squid is 'oribble

No it ain't. It's luvverly - especially the way it is cooked by my Chinese friends.

No it ain't. Bits of bicycle tyres inner tube.

If it tasted rubbery it was overcooked.

cherries · **#84** by **cherries** » Feb 19, 2012 12:11 am

Lance · **#85** by **Lance** » Feb 19, 2012 4:59 am

quas wrote:I thought it was those people living in rural villages. They had an average lifespan of 90-100 minimum. It's probably because of genetics or lack of stress, but mostly it has to do with the restriction in caloric intake. Half-starving has been consistently proven to increase longevity in all organisms from bacteria and yeast cells to rats and monkeys.

There is one single most vitally important factor required for a village to have average lifespan of 90 to 100.

Lack of documentation!

johnbrandt · **#86** by **johnbrandt** » Feb 19, 2012 10:05 am

"Five colours on the plate"...

...does that count as bacon, steak, chips, mushrooms, and gravy...? :lol:

campermon · **#87** by **campermon** » Feb 19, 2012 10:18 am

johnbrandt wrote:"Five colours on the plate"...

...does that count as bacon, steak, chips, mushrooms, and gravy...?

It's been ages since I had a good fry up!

quas · **#88** by **quas** » Feb 19, 2012 3:33 pm

Lance wrote:
quas wrote:I thought it was those people living in rural villages. They had an average lifespan of 90-100 minimum. It's probably because of genetics or lack of stress, but mostly it has to do with the restriction in caloric intake. Half-starving has been consistently proven to increase longevity in all organisms from bacteria and yeast cells to rats and monkeys.

There is one single most vitally important factor required for a village to have average lifespan of 90 to 100.

Lack of documentation!

You are saying their birth dates were not recorded accurately?

Lance · **#89** by **Lance** » Feb 19, 2012 7:54 pm

To quas

Exactly.
There are always extreme claims of lifespan, both for individuals and for populations. When researchers look into them, though, they discover that the claims are just claims. No solid evidence.

For example, the oldest person who ever lived, with the claim supported by solid documentation, was a French woman, Jeanne Calmont, who made 122 years. Yet there are numerous claims of people who lived 130, 140, 150. The one thing all these claims have in common is a total lack of real evidence.

In the same way, there are claims of villages, and entire peoples, averaging 90 or 100. Look into those claims, and the lack of documentary evidence is obvious.

if you apply Occam's Razor, knowing what the normal range of lifespans are, the obvious answer is that the claims are spurious.

Scot Dutchy · **#90** by **Scot Dutchy** » Feb 20, 2012 11:12 am

Well for maroccans in the Rift valley they do not know how old they are. The boys can be one or two years out but the girls are just not registered.

Loren Michael · **#91** by **Loren Michael** » Feb 21, 2012 9:28 am

Around about January of last year I started doing a slow-carb diet of basically no carbohydrates that weren't black beans or lentils and minimal sugar, six days a week. Oh, and minimal dairy. Basically, I avoid things that are white. And then once a week I have whatever I please.

I lost four inches off my waist and kept it off, my skin cleared up, and I have way more energy than I ever did. I just got back to China after three years away, and all my old friends say I look younger than when I left.

I'm sure it's not for everyone, but it certainly has worked for me. It's basically a lot of meat and veggies and legumes six days a week, and then like a whole cheesecake every Saturday.

In Korea, it was perfect. Korean BBQ six days a week, and then a trip the the bakery before hitting the clubs on Saturday.

HughMcB · **#92** by **HughMcB** » Feb 21, 2012 5:22 pm

Alan B wrote:
Scot Dutchy wrote:
HughMcB wrote:I just munched down a spicy squid and octopus stir-fry for lunch I made.

*pats back smugly*

Squid is 'oribble

No it ain't. It's luvverly - especially the way it is cooked by my Chinese friends.

Chinese food ftw!

Proper Chinese food is awesome, none of this fried shite, just good healthy dishes, lots of variety. :dopey:

HughMcB · **#93** by **HughMcB** » Feb 21, 2012 5:27 pm

Macroinvertebrate wrote:I remember having deep fried squid in Portugal back in 1985. Deep fried them whole at this restaurant we were at. Must have been babies or a smaller species. Tasted pretty salty, almost like breakfast sausage IIRC. Favourite dish in Portugal was by far the 'Cataplana' (sp?) which was a huge steaming bowl of various shellfish. Pretty interesting flavours to an 8 year old kid from Canada.

They would certainly first needed to have been debeaked, deveined and gutted. They might have still looked whole though. :grin:

cherries · **#94** by **cherries** » Feb 21, 2012 7:29 pm

HughMcB wrote:
Macroinvertebrate wrote:I remember having deep fried squid in Portugal back in 1985. Deep fried them whole at this restaurant we were at. Must have been babies or a smaller species. Tasted pretty salty, almost like breakfast sausage IIRC. Favourite dish in Portugal was by far the 'Cataplana' (sp?) which was a huge steaming bowl of various shellfish. Pretty interesting flavours to an 8 year old kid from Canada.

They would certainly first needed to have been debeaked, deveined and gutted. They might have still looked whole though.

some people i knew in malaysia like to eat them with the ink sack still attached :cheers:

http://www.eresep.com/513/Squid-in-Black-Ink-%28Sotong-Masak-Hitam%29-recipes/

HughMcB · **#95** by **HughMcB** » Feb 21, 2012 7:33 pm

Yummy ink!

cherries · **#96** by **cherries** » Feb 21, 2012 7:52 pm

they seemed to like it

Loren Michael · **#97** by **Loren Michael** » Feb 22, 2012 8:23 am

HughMcB wrote:
Alan B wrote:
Scot Dutchy wrote:
HughMcB wrote:I just munched down a spicy squid and octopus stir-fry for lunch I made.

*pats back smugly*

Squid is 'oribble

No it ain't. It's luvverly - especially the way it is cooked by my Chinese friends.

Chinese food ftw!

Proper Chinese food is awesome, none of this fried shite, just good healthy dishes, lots of variety.

There is no "proper" Chinese food. Lots of it really is fried, and it is also delicious. There is an incredible diversity in Chinese cuisine.

Lance · **#98** by **Lance** » Feb 22, 2012 8:25 pm

On squid.

Cooking squid follows exactly the same rules for cooking most seafood. Two basic rules.
1. it must be fresh.
2. if must not be over-cooked.

As one who has eaten a lot of squid the morning after the night it is caught, i can tell everyone that it is delicious. However, you must use rapid cooking. No overcooking.

I have also eaten unfresh and/or over-cooked squid. Such is truly horrible. Rubber food.

Alan B · **#99** by **Alan B** » Feb 22, 2012 8:52 pm

Loren Michael wrote:There is no "proper" Chinese food. Lots of it really is fried, and it is also delicious. There is an incredible diversity in Chinese cuisine.

Too true! When I was there a few years ago, I would try almost anything. Although I did draw the line at crunchy insects-on-a-stick... :nono:

MoonLit · **#100** by **MoonLit** » Feb 22, 2012 11:14 pm

Alan B wrote:
Loren Michael wrote:There is no "proper" Chinese food. Lots of it really is fried, and it is also delicious. There is an incredible diversity in Chinese cuisine.

Too true! When I was there a few years ago, I would try almost anything. Although I did draw the line at crunchy insects-on-a-stick...

Aww, should have tried one anyways! I hear they're good. :cheers:

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