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Re: Why are Italian restaurants so expensive?

#141  Postby jamest » Feb 15, 2020 5:10 am

Pubs? Do overseas peoples think that 'pubs' = English/British food?
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Re: Why are Italian restaurants so expensive?

#142  Postby Hermit » Feb 15, 2020 5:48 am

jamest wrote:Pubs? Do overseas peoples think that 'pubs' = English/British food?

Overseas people know that you can get English/British food in pubs targeted at Pommy expatriates and tourists. That's good enough. The reason for not bothering to open an English/British food restaurant is the same one why Irish food restaurants are as rare as hens' teeth. Or German ones for that matter, although a few of the latter eke out an existence by catering for homesick German rejects and curious people with a masochistic streak. :notentirelyseriousemoj:
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Re: Why are Italian restaurants so expensive?

#143  Postby Spearthrower » Feb 15, 2020 8:09 am

jamest wrote:Pubs? Do overseas peoples think that 'pubs' = English/British food?


What do you mean "overseas people"?

There are essentially no "English restaurants" in England. If you want to eat the things you said at a sit-down place in England, you'd go to a pub.
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Re: Why are Italian restaurants so expensive?

#144  Postby jamest » Feb 15, 2020 2:21 pm

I'm not just talking about Britain. When you go overseas in my limited experience it's very difficult to find 'British food'. I don't know why that is. Though I do remember eating good quality fish & chips somewhere in the USA.
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Re: Why are Italian restaurants so expensive?

#145  Postby Fallible » Feb 15, 2020 2:22 pm

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Fallible wrote:It’s not pickles, it’s green peppers, or as our North American cousins say, bell peppers. Also, I hate mushy peas, and fundamentally do not understand anyone who does like them.

Also also, the only peas I like are the one that Brits call petit pois. The baby ones. And then I disappear down a hole wondering what the French call them - petit petit pois?

Excuse the 20,000,000 edits, brain go blah.

Like, I don't even enjoy regular peas. But if I'm eating them, I want that little burst. Just mushy green sludge is not for consumption. Is wrong. Is dangerous and wrong.


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Re: Why are Italian restaurants so expensive?

#146  Postby felltoearth » Feb 15, 2020 3:21 pm

jamest wrote:I'm not just talking about Britain. When you go overseas in my limited experience it's very difficult to find 'British food'. I don't know why that is. Though I do remember eating good quality fish & chips somewhere in the USA.

And people complain about Americans who travel.
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Re: Why are Italian restaurants so expensive?

#147  Postby Fallible » Feb 15, 2020 3:26 pm

Why would you even look for British food when you travel? :lol: I know some people do, but they always seem to be the completely brain-free contingent who also think that making themselves understood means speaking English louder.
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Re: Why are Italian restaurants so expensive?

#148  Postby Fallible » Feb 15, 2020 3:29 pm

jamest wrote:I've never understood why I've never come across an explicitly named 'English/British' restaurant (even overseas), specialising in roast dinners; fish & chips; bacon and eggs; pies(!): etc.. I know that we don't have the greatest reputation in the world for our cooking, but there are many tasty dishes from around these parts (regional and national) which I love.

I should have posted this in the rant thread, I suppose.


Given that you added the overseas element in brackets, you seem to be mainly asking why there are no explicitly named English/British restaurants in England/Britain. Hopefully if you think about it a bit more, you’ll understand why this is a stupid question.
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Re: Why are Italian restaurants so expensive?

#149  Postby felltoearth » Feb 15, 2020 3:35 pm

Fallible wrote:
jamest wrote:I've never understood why I've never come across an explicitly named 'English/British' restaurant (even overseas), specialising in roast dinners; fish & chips; bacon and eggs; pies(!): etc.. I know that we don't have the greatest reputation in the world for our cooking, but there are many tasty dishes from around these parts (regional and national) which I love.

I should have posted this in the rant thread, I suppose.


Given that you added the overseas element in brackets, you seem to be mainly asking why there are no explicitly named English/British restaurants in England/Britain. Hopefully if you think about it a bit more, you’ll understand why this is a stupid question.

In manner, it’s in keeping with the OP and on topic.
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Re: Why are Italian restaurants so expensive?

#150  Postby The_Piper » Feb 15, 2020 4:16 pm

"Fish and Chips" is something I've seen on menus all over the place. I've never even considered ordering it. :lol: That's because of allergies though. I have it at home a lot. Frozen fish sticks and french fries. :dopey:
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Peppers are also good raw. The red ones are very sweet, they makes a nice snack when cut into strips!

Ok, soup without the liquid. Sounds good. :mrgreen:
Fallible wrote:Yes, good for dipping in hummus, guacamole, etc.
I know those are foods but that's exactly where my knowledge ends. :oops: I'll google them.
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Re: Why are Italian restaurants so expensive?

#151  Postby Spearthrower » Feb 15, 2020 4:16 pm

jamest wrote:I'm not just talking about Britain.


I lived in Italy - I could go out to dozens of restaurants serving Italian food. I lived in India - I could go out to dozens of restaurants serving Indian food. I live in Thailand - I can go out to dozens of restaurants serving Thai food.

Every country I've lived in, restaurants serving the national foods were common.

You live in England - where are the English food serving restaurants?

They're pubs. That's just the way it is; it's historical and cultural... restaurant-going is a fairly modern pursuit in the UK.

Sure, there are some upmarket restaurants serving predominantly British cuisine, but we're talking about readily available, widely distributed outlets of local food. In England, that's a pub. So it's not really surprising that British food in other countries is also served in a pub. It would, in fact, be really bloody weird to go to an "English restaurant".


jamest wrote:When you go overseas in my limited experience it's very difficult to find 'British food'. I don't know why that is.


That tends to be the case in every country for every food other than the local food. If I may be a little snippy, that's part of being in a different country.

However, I would be surprised if you couldn't find a British pub serving British food in all the biggest cities in the world.


jamest wrote:Though I do remember eating good quality fish & chips somewhere in the USA.


While fish and chips may seem like a classic English/British dish, it's not really actually peculiar to the UK. You can find very similar dishes in pretty much every country that has a coastline.
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Re: Why are Italian restaurants so expensive?

#152  Postby The_Piper » Feb 15, 2020 4:18 pm

Hermit wrote:
jamest wrote:Pubs? Do overseas peoples think that 'pubs' = English/British food?

Overseas people know that you can get English/British food in pubs targeted at Pommy expatriates and tourists. That's good enough. The reason for not bothering to open an English/British food restaurant is the same one why Irish food restaurants are as rare as hens' teeth. Or German ones for that matter, although a few of the latter eke out an existence by catering for homesick German rejects and curious people with a masochistic streak. :notentirelyseriousemoj:

McDonalds is a famous Scottish resaurant serving some German cuisine. Hamburgers. :P
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Re: Why are Italian restaurants so expensive?

#153  Postby Bubalus » Feb 15, 2020 9:12 pm

For British fare you can always try Simpsons in the Strand
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Re: Why are Italian restaurants so expensive?

#154  Postby Spinozasgalt » Feb 15, 2020 11:49 pm

The lack of overt British eateries might have something to do with the way whiteness expresses itself as the default and the neutral.
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Re: Why are Italian restaurants so expensive?

#155  Postby Hermit » Feb 16, 2020 12:59 am

The_Piper wrote:
McDonalds is a famous Scottish resaurant serving some German cuisine. Hamburgers. :P

I guess you're joking. ;)

McDonald's/restaurant is an oxymoron. The fast food chain was founded by Richard and Maurice McDonald, whose surname disguised the fact that they were born in New Hampshire. It's first outlet was built in California. It got a mention in that famous documentary titled "American Graffiti".

In my almost 16 years of living in Germany I have never as much as heard of a food item called "hamburger", let alone eaten one. This is not particularly amazing in light of the fact that as far as we can tell, "the USA was the first country where two slices of bread and a ground beef steak were combined into a "hamburger sandwich" and sold".
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Re: Why are Italian restaurants so expensive?

#156  Postby NineBerry » Feb 16, 2020 2:38 am

Spinozasgalt wrote:Any thread where I badmouth peas is a good thread.


Give peas a chance!
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Re: Why are Italian restaurants so expensive?

#157  Postby Spearthrower » Feb 16, 2020 5:56 am

Mmmm peas.
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Re: Why are Italian restaurants so expensive?

#158  Postby Spinozasgalt » Feb 16, 2020 7:26 am

NineBerry wrote:
Spinozasgalt wrote:Any thread where I badmouth peas is a good thread.


Give peas a chance!
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Re: Why are Italian restaurants so expensive?

#159  Postby Fallible » Feb 16, 2020 11:42 am

Then what do you want us to do?

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Re: Why are Italian restaurants so expensive?

#160  Postby Keep It Real » Feb 16, 2020 8:46 pm

Is that glass bulletproof?
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