campermon wrote:Anyone fancy a beer?

Hermit wrote:Stop digging already nevets. Read the bolded and underlined text again. Pay particular attention to the two words "make matter". QM is not, cannot be concerned with making matter. That is not even within the purview of science. Leave abiogenesis to theology and metaphysics.

Light behaves in some aspects like particles and in other aspects like waves. Matter—the "stuff" of the universe consisting of particles such as electrons and atoms—exhibits wavelike behavior too. Some light sources, such as neon lights, give off only certain specific frequencies of light, a small set of distinct pure colors determined by neon's atomic structure. Quantum mechanics shows that light, along with all other forms of electromagnetic radiation, comes in discrete units, called photons, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Introduct ... _mechanics

campermon wrote:Anyone fancy a beer?

campermon wrote:In other news; Good friend of mine (we studied together) has just put out a tentative theory on the origin of dark matter:

"Nuclear physicists are putting forward a new candidate for dark matter -- a particle they recently discovered called the d-star hexaquark. "
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2 ... 140225.htm

We discussed it last year over a few beers; to paraphrase him "It could be a Nobel, or more likely just a crock of shit"

Cito di Pense wrote:

campermon wrote:Anyone fancy a beer?

Nevets wrote:

Spearthrower wrote:

Who is?

Where are they doing this?

How can light particles 'form' matter?

Your link suggests nothing of the sort.

Science is.

Nevets wrote:

Wave–particle duality is the concept in quantum mechanics that every particle or quantum entity may be described as either a particle or a wave. It expresses the inability of the classical concepts "particle" or "wave" to fully describe the behaviour of quantum-scale objects. As Albert Einstein wrote https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave%E2%8 ... le_duality

The wave theories of light

Classical particle and wave theories of light https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave%E2%8 ... le_duality

Light is an unincorporated community in Greene County, Arkansas, United States.

According to conductor Leon Botstein, Einstein began playing when he was 5. However, he did not enjoy it at that age

The difference in prices from the first load to the later ones was so high that the original price which was paid for the tea in China was quite unimportant. So the "price of tea in China" was something that really didn't matter for the ship owners. They had to have the tea in England as fast as possible.

Nevets wrote:If you do not know the first thing about Quantum mechanics, and how it has theories of Light containing particles, and you are unable to see how this equates to them trying to establish how solid physical matter was formed, then that is not my fault

Hermit wrote:

Nevets wrote:

In physics, a quantum (plural quanta) is the minimum amount of any physical entity (physical property) involved in an interaction. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum

This theory is trying to describe what might have caused the big bang, such as Light photons interacting with something else, in order to create a bang and make matter

There is nothing at all whatsoever in the bit you quote that says anything at all that could possibly be described as "Light photons interacting with something else, in order to create a bang and make matter". By attempting to squeeze this interpretation out of the bit you quoted you are making an utter fool of yourself. Stop injecting meanings into statements that are exclusively of your own creation.

Light behaves in some aspects like particles and in other aspects like waves. Matter—the "stuff" of the universe consisting of particles such as electrons and atoms—exhibits wavelike behavior too. Some light sources, such as neon lights, give off only certain specific frequencies of light, a small set of distinct pure colors determined by neon's atomic structure. Quantum mechanics shows that light, along with all other forms of electromagnetic radiation, comes in discrete units, called photons, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Introduct ... _mechanics

newolder wrote:

campermon wrote:In other news; Good friend of mine (we studied together) has just put out a tentative theory on the origin of dark matter:

"Nuclear physicists are putting forward a new candidate for dark matter -- a particle they recently discovered called the d-star hexaquark. "
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2 ... 140225.htm

We discussed it last year over a few beers; to paraphrase him "It could be a Nobel, or more likely just a crock of shit"

How do they overcome the short lifetime (~ 10-23 seconds) of the hexaquark and don't 6 quarks have Coulomb charge and, therefore, e-m coupling and, therefore, not "dark" or invisible to e-m fields?

campermon wrote:Anyone fancy a beer?

Nevets wrote:

Hermit wrote:Stop digging already nevets. Read the bolded and underlined text again. Pay particular attention to the two words "make matter". QM is not, cannot be concerned with making matter. That is not even within the purview of science. Leave abiogenesis to theology and metaphysics.

Ok, seen as you have no understanding of Quantum Mechanics, let me take you back to the introduction, let there be light

Light behaves in some aspects like particles and in other aspects like waves. Matter—the "stuff" of the universe consisting of particles such as electrons and atoms—exhibits wavelike behavior too. Some light sources, such as neon lights, give off only certain specific frequencies of light, a small set of distinct pure colors determined by neon's atomic structure. Quantum mechanics shows that light, along with all other forms of electromagnetic radiation, comes in discrete units, called photons, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Introduct ... _mechanics

Spearthrower wrote:

campermon wrote:Anyone fancy a beer?

I think we're going to need something stronger.

newolder wrote:

campermon wrote:In other news; Good friend of mine (we studied together) has just put out a tentative theory on the origin of dark matter:

"Nuclear physicists are putting forward a new candidate for dark matter -- a particle they recently discovered called the d-star hexaquark. "
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2 ... 140225.htm

We discussed it last year over a few beers; to paraphrase him "It could be a Nobel, or more likely just a crock of shit"

How do they overcome the short lifetime (~ 10-23 seconds) of the hexaquark and don't 6 quarks have Coulomb charge and, therefore, e-m coupling and, therefore, not "dark" or invisible to e-m fields?

Cito di Pense wrote:

Spearthrower wrote:

campermon wrote:Anyone fancy a beer?

I think we're going to need something stronger.

Kahlua-Klein Theory?

Spearthrower wrote:

Maybe we can make this easier - I doubt anyone here believes you know the first thing about QM, so unless you're going to go out of your way to disprove this by showing your expertise, how about you drop the pretense as it's very much having the opposite effect to the one you presumable desire.

Since its inception, the many counter-intuitive aspects and results of quantum mechanics have provoked strong philosophical debates and many interpretations. Even fundamental issues, such as Max Born's basic rules about probability amplitudes and probability distributions, took decades to be appreciated by society and many leading scientists. Richard Feynman once said, "I think I can safely say that nobody understands quantum mechanics."[77] According to Steven Weinberg, "There is now in my opinion no entirely satisfactory interpretation of quantum mechanics."[78]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_mechanics#Philosophical_implications

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Cito di Pense wrote:

Spearthrower wrote:

campermon wrote:Anyone fancy a beer?

I think we're going to need something stronger.

Kahlua-Klein Theory?

campermon wrote:

Cito di Pense wrote:

Spearthrower wrote:

campermon wrote:Anyone fancy a beer?

I think we're going to need something stronger.

Kahlua-Klein Theory?

On the rocks please bartender!

Nevets wrote:

Light photons are something QM are researching

Cito di Pense wrote:

campermon wrote:

Cito di Pense wrote:

Spearthrower wrote:


I think we're going to need something stronger.

Kahlua-Klein Theory?

On the rocks please bartender!

The second ingredient comes out of a Klein bottle. Ah, but which way is "out"?