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Wheelspawn wrote:
In this video, he purports that QM proves materialism is false.
Wheelspawn wrote:I can tell when something sounds fishy
Cito di Pense wrote:
No, it doesn't seem as if you can. If you want to believe you have an immortal soul, go right ahead, as long as you don't insist it obliges me in any way. The key to skepticism is deciding what you have time for, and what you don't have time for. Time is short, unless, of course, you believe you have an immortal soul.
Wheelspawn wrote:Cito di Pense wrote:
No, it doesn't seem as if you can. If you want to believe you have an immortal soul, go right ahead, as long as you don't insist it obliges me in any way. The key to skepticism is deciding what you have time for, and what you don't have time for. Time is short, unless, of course, you believe you have an immortal soul.
Did I say I believe in an immortal soul? Sounds like you are putting words in my mouth.
Wheelspawn wrote:To say that QM debunks materialism is essentially saying that something developed under the materialist worldview debunks the materialist worldview... which makes no fucking sense.
Wheelspawn wrote:-for example, that reality is mental and not physica
Reality is the sum or aggregate of all that is real or existent within a system, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reality
Wheelspawn wrote:non-duality.
"nondualism" is derived from Advaita Vedanta, descriptions of nondual consciousness can be found within Hinduism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nondualism
Wheelspawn wrote:In one recent video he even claimed to be God--apparently he discovered this with the help of psychedelic drugs.
Wheelspawn wrote:In this video, he purports that QM proves materialism is false.
Quantum mechanics is a fundamental theory in physics describing the properties of nature https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_mechanics
Nevets wrote:Wheelspawn wrote:-for example, that reality is mental and not physica
You cannot debunk this, as it is actually true that everything you hear, and see, requires the use of your brain, and once your brain dies, you also die. You cannot function without your brain.
If you really wish to argue with him however, then you could try reminding him what reality is
Thomas Eshuis wrote:Nevets wrote:Wheelspawn wrote:-for example, that reality is mental and not physica
You cannot debunk this, as it is actually true that everything you hear, and see, requires the use of your brain, and once your brain dies, you also die. You cannot function without your brain.
If you really wish to argue with him however, then you could try reminding him what reality is
Except the brain is physical, not immaterial and to use your senses you need to use other physical, non-mental parts of your body, specifically your nervous system, ears, etc.
Richard Feynman once said, "I think I can safely say that nobody understands quantum mechanics."https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_mechanics#Philosophical_implications
A dry ice bomb is a simple explosive device. While its simplicity, ease of construction, high bursting pressure and sound make it appealing for recreational purposes, it can be unpredictable and dangerous, and it has led to many injuries. Dry ice bombs are illegal in many jurisdictions. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dry_ice_bomb
Scientists create a new form of matter—superionic water ice https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2018/02 ... -water-ice
Frozen Droplets Explode on Camera, for Science https://www.livescience.com/58241-watch ... plode.html
Liquid water becomes solid ice when it is very cold https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice
Is it coldness that creates Ice? Or is the Ice already there in matter already? I think there needs to be water
Nevets wrote:
Do you mean, how can matter be created out of nothingness? And this would include Ice and fire and gases and liquids? Well, i do not know.
But yes, you are correct.
Science would say it is impossible for even any matter to just appear out of nowhere.
But i do not know what you mean by "it already is"?
The question that needs answering, is how did "what already is", become?
theropod_V_2.0 wrote:Nevets wrote:
Do you mean, how can matter be created out of nothingness? And this would include Ice and fire and gases and liquids? Well, i do not know.
But yes, you are correct.
Science would say it is impossible for even any matter to just appear out of nowhere.
But i do not know what you mean by "it already is"?
The question that needs answering, is how did "what already is", become?
Sigh, I mean what I post, unless it’s a throw-away comment, and this wasn’t. Both fire and ice are states of matter already in existence, and have nothing whatsoever to do with how baryonic matter came to be. Using them as an example of anything other than fire and ice is foolish. Your example is so poorly formed it’s nearly impossible to address in a meaningful manner. How dry ice bombs play into the issue is beyond me.
Virtual particles sort of throws a kink in the matter from nothing objection, and science might have a different view on the subject than you suggest. We simply do not know how baryonic matter came to be. Since we do not know the conditions proceeding the inflation epoch the best we can do, for now, is to speculate.
What more needs to be said about the subject? Seriously? What’s your point?
RS
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