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Expanding earth. Do the continents wind back to a sphere. Yes or No ?

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No
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Yes But...Add your reason
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Re: Expanding earth. Do the continents wind back to a sphere

#11461  Postby Manticore » Mar 30, 2017 1:13 pm

Ubjon wrote:So how this does theory explain volcano formation?


It's not a theory - it's an entry in the "Mind Buggeringly Stupid Delusions of the 20th Century." competition.
(Actually, it's probably Victorian in origin, like so many things modern crackpots espouse.)
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Re: Expanding earth. Do the continents wind back to a sphere

#11462  Postby ginckgo » Mar 30, 2017 11:49 pm

I still stand by my earlier assessment: Why waste time trying to prove or disprove that there is a mechanism for Earth Expansion, when it has not yet been shown that there even IS expansion?

This cuts both ways: EE proponents mush first solidly show supporting data for any expansion; while opponents can't just think the absence of a mechanism in itself goes all the way in disproving expansion (having said that, any lack in prior plausibility for expansion mechanism certainly raises the bar on the evidence required by EE proponents to support their hypothesis; and it is not up to opponents to falsify EE, it's up to proponents to 'prove' it)
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#11463  Postby lucek » Apr 01, 2017 3:10 am

ginckgo wrote:I still stand by my earlier assessment: Why waste time trying to prove or disprove that there is a mechanism for Earth Expansion, when it has not yet been shown that there even IS expansion?

This cuts both ways: EE proponents mush first solidly show supporting data for any expansion; while opponents can't just think the absence of a mechanism in itself goes all the way in disproving expansion (having said that, any lack in prior plausibility for expansion mechanism certainly raises the bar on the evidence required by EE proponents to support their hypothesis; and it is not up to opponents to falsify EE, it's up to proponents to 'prove' it)

Lets be fair. Let them produce one then work on the other. Doesn't matter which.
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Re: Expanding earth. Do the continents wind back to a sphere

#11464  Postby Just A Theory » Apr 20, 2017 5:47 am

PleaseReadThis wrote:Here is a chart of the detectable flux of cosmic rays at various energies from the "cosmic ray" wiki page:
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Looks like there are all sorts of particles with more than 155 GeV. While this might not amount to enough to account for the mass needed, it shows qualitatively that the Earth is not a closed system and maybe we just haven't found all the contributors.


Electron volts are both a unit of mass and a unit of energy according to mass-energy eqivalence given by Einstein's famous formula. For a photon of 155 GeV to give rise to a particle of equivalent mass, the entire energy of the photon must be converted to mass and the mass must not immediately decay!

For such high mass particles not to immediately decay, they must be stabilised somehow. The only method which we know of to stabilise such particles is to ensure that their surroundings are at or above the same energy level. In other words, what you're proposing is that the entire Earth be constantly bathed in photons of 155 GeV or above.

from Norton et al 2015, the average solar photon is approxomately 1.86 eV. That means, in order to produce the energies that you are so blithely referring to, we would need a flux from high energy cosmic rays approximately 83 billion times that which the sun is currently delivering to us.

At this point, I shall restate my earlier comment.

". Were such energies present in any significant amount on, in or around the Earth then we would have far more serious things to worry about than the mere expansion of our globe."
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#11465  Postby Just A Theory » Jun 30, 2017 5:06 am

Just A Theory wrote:In other words, what you're proposing is that the entire Earth be constantly bathed in photons of 155 GeV or above.


I just did a little bit of research. This translates to a temperature of approximately 1.7 trillion Kelvin. Expanding Earth proponents would be wise to invest in ceiling insulation and a good air conditioner :whistle:
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