Kafei wrote:I wish to further our understanding in regards to these topics.
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Wheelspawn wrote:I've had multiple mystical experiences regarding the Ground of all Being. I am an atheist and naturalist, and make no supernatural or paranormal interpretations of it. Ask me anything.
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theropod wrote:Hero dose? Seriously? This shit is pure comedy gold. They need to talk to a few of us old hard core hippies about what really constitutes a “hero dose”. I contend this “hero dose” is barely enough to have a good trip.
Kafei wrote:theropod wrote:Hero dose? Seriously? This shit is pure comedy gold. They need to talk to a few of us old hard core hippies about what really constitutes a “hero dose”. I contend this “hero dose” is barely enough to have a good trip.
The heroic dose is not a joke. If you're interested in what a heroic dose entails, I recommend the lectures of Kilindi Iyi or Terence McKenna.
Kafei wrote:theropod wrote:Hero dose? Seriously? This shit is pure comedy gold. They need to talk to a few of us old hard core hippies about what really constitutes a “hero dose”. I contend this “hero dose” is barely enough to have a good trip.
The heroic dose is not a joke. If you're interested in what a heroic dose entails, I recommend the lectures of Kilindi Iyi or Terence McKenna.
theropod wrote:Hero dose? Seriously? This shit is pure comedy gold. They need to talk to a few of us old hard core hippies about what really constitutes a “hero dose”. I contend this “hero dose” is barely enough to have a good trip.
“Back in the day” I picked fresh Liberty Caps (Psilocybe semilanceata) by the pound. Yes, by the pound. One time I ate over 8.5 grams of them in a dried state which were sealed in a large test tube, and wandered around in the desert of eastern Oregon for several hours. I remember finding part of a broken geode (probably fractured by water intrusion followed by a freeze expansion). I balanced that glittering rock on a basalt boulder and shot it with my .22 rifle. The resultant mix of visual and auditory hallucinations were as intense as any I experienced, and I have taken a full drop of pure liquid LSD.
During no part of any of the epic trips I have experienced did any feeling of being in the presence of, or communion with, any non natural entity. I have, alternately, felt the vastness of time over which the earth has existed. I’ve looked at the sequences of repeating deposited flood basalts common in the northwestern United States, and felt the violence and turmoil of a world in constant flux. I could smell the sulphuric acid in the air, and feel the radiant heat of thousands of cubic miles of fresh lava. At the time it was as if I had stepped into a “way back” machine. The closest any of my experiences came to being spiritual was the realization that we humans owe our very existance to these violent natural forces. 8.5 grams of Psilocybe semilanceata? Try what Kilindi Iyi is talking about in Psilocybe azurescens.
I know my anecdotal shit is just that, but no matter what anyone relates of their experiences those are just as useless as mine. This whole thread is an absurd exercise in cherry picking, and anyone attempting to equate anecdotal stories with hard evidence is fooling themselves. It doesn’t matter what the researchers do, or say, when all they have to base their findings on is stories related to them. People lie.
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Cito di Pense wrote:
How is your recommendation worth anything? You could leave that part out. And then we still have to take somebody else's word for it. This whole game boils down to "If you haven't done it, you don't know what you're missing."
Cito di Pense wrote:I'll tell you what a "heroic dose" entails. It entails a lot of circularity. The anecdotes are there just so you can smugly puff out your chest with bullshit.
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