Hero dose? Seriously? This shit is pure comedy gold. They need to talk to a few of us old hard core hippies about what really constitutes a “hero dose”. I contend this “hero dose” is barely enough to have a good trip.

“Back in the day” I picked fresh Liberty Caps (Psilocybe semilanceata) by the pound. Yes, by the pound. One time I ate over 8.5 grams of them in a dried state which were sealed in a large test tube, and wandered around in the desert of eastern Oregon for several hours. I remember finding part of a broken geode (probably fractured by water intrusion followed by a freeze expansion). I balanced that glittering rock on a basalt boulder and shot it with my .22 rifle. The resultant mix of visual and auditory hallucinations were as intense as any I experienced, and I have taken a full drop of pure liquid LSD.

During no part of any of the epic trips I have experienced did any feeling of being in the presence of, or communion with, any non natural entity. I have, alternately, felt the vastness of time over which the earth has existed. I’ve looked at the sequences of repeating deposited flood basalts common in the northwestern United States, and felt the violence and turmoil of a world in constant flux. I could smell the sulphuric acid in the air, and feel the radiant heat of thousands of cubic miles of fresh lava. At the time it was as if I had stepped into a “way back” machine. The closest any of my experiences came to being spiritual was the realization that we humans owe our very existance to these violent natural forces.

I know my anecdotal shit is just that, but no matter what anyone relates of their experiences those are just as useless as mine. This whole thread is an absurd exercise in cherry picking, and anyone attempting to equate anecdotal stories with hard evidence is fooling themselves. It doesn’t matter what the researchers do, or say, when all they have to base their findings on is stories related to them. People lie.

RS

Kafei wrote:

theropod wrote:Hero dose? Seriously? This shit is pure comedy gold. They need to talk to a few of us old hard core hippies about what really constitutes a “hero dose”. I contend this “hero dose” is barely enough to have a good trip.

The heroic dose is not a joke. If you're interested in what a heroic dose entails, I recommend the lectures of Kilindi Iyi or Terence McKenna.

Apparently you failed to read my post, and only skimmed off what you want to think is a gotcha statement. I have done massive doses of hallucinogenic drugs of severl types. I know what I’m talking about, but somehow my actual experices don’t count. Why would I need to read what someone else considers a “hero dose” when I pushed well past the point they claim, and you cited, by at least a factor of ten? How are my anecdotal stories any less valuable than anyone else’s, and how are the same types of stories of more valuable from other sources?

Troll someone else, because you have utterly failed in this instance.

RS