Has anyone discussed Jean-Jacques Charbonier's claims?

He is a french anesthesist who defends afterlife

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Has anyone discussed Jean-Jacques Charbonier's claims?

#1  Postby seeker » Oct 22, 2017 10:42 pm

Jean-Jacques Charbonier is a french anesthesist who defends afterlife. For example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4Q6H12-oNA
Are there texts (in English or French) discussing his claims?
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#2  Postby Blackadder » Oct 23, 2017 12:51 pm

He’s a collector of anecdotes. What he does not do is science, even though he claims to have done. File alongside Raymond Moody in “Medical Practioners, Ranch, Wandered Off.”
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#3  Postby Animavore » Oct 23, 2017 10:06 pm

Funnily I saw a documentary years ago with an American anaesthetist who reckoned being under anaesthesia, which inhibits your brain function, that nothingness you feel between going under and coming back with what feels like a moment later, is what it's like to be dead, without the coming back part.

As an IT sort I think death is like a computer going off. What happens to all of those operating systems and programs? Nothing.

Weird how we have notions of life and death based on our vocation.
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#4  Postby BlackBart » Oct 24, 2017 5:35 am

Anecdotes of the afterlife from people who are still alive.

I see a couple of flaws in that methodology.
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#5  Postby Fallible » Oct 24, 2017 6:43 am

Animavore wrote:Funnily I saw a documentary years ago with an American anaesthetist who reckoned being under anaesthesia, which inhibits your brain function, that nothingness you feel between going under and coming back with what feels like a moment later, is what it's like to be dead, without the coming back part.

As an IT sort I think death is like a computer going off. What happens to all of those operating systems and programs? Nothing.

Weird how we have notions of life and death based on our vocation.


That nothingness which seemed to last literally no time at all when in fact around 8 hours had elapsed actually made me feel far more comforted regarding death. So you just get switched off and have no awareness of anything? Cool, I can do that. Kind of the opposite of what afterlife proponents feel about it, where the thought of nothingness appears to scare them rigid.
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#6  Postby zulumoose » Oct 24, 2017 7:12 am

As an IT sort I think death is like a computer going off. What happens to all of those operating systems and programs? Nothing.


Lucky we have non volatile memory, imagine if even a percentage of the population after anaesthesia had brains that were a blank slate, all surgery would have to be carried out under local only, with movement a huge risk for the more delicate procedures.
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#7  Postby SafeAsMilk » Oct 24, 2017 2:35 pm

BlackBart wrote:Anecdotes of the afterlife from people who are still alive.

I see a couple of flaws in that methodology.

Well it's not like dead people can tell you anything about it :lol: :?
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#8  Postby BlackBart » Oct 24, 2017 4:36 pm

Too busy demanding 'BRAAAAAAAINS!!!' usually.
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