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Re: Tell me a simple effective argument against vaccine denial

#261  Postby JustStarDust » Jul 27, 2020 4:53 pm

newolder wrote:
JustStarDust wrote:Right'o. Will do.

Just please keep in mind that I don't want this crap to be true. Right?

What you want here is irrelevant.

This guy, Ryan Dawson just mentioned it on his video, here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cEI_zABPlQ
@1:10:54 to 1:16:00.

Ryan Dawson is a quagmire - to me. I think he is 'well educated'. His brother apparently just proved something about US history / Roanoke? I remember some video from the Khan academy about that mystery, but either way, I want to trust these Dawsons (not creepy Shane Dawson - no relation, as far as I know)
Ryan does what he can. And if there's any truth to what he says about vaccines, then, wtf guys?

A quagmire to you, but that you think is well educated, posted a youtube about his brother proving something? How is that comparing the list of un-evidenced claims against the peer reviewed science about vaccination? :doh:

When instructed to jump, your question is, "How low?" :eh:


What you want here is irrelevant. (Apparently)

The video I posted wasn't even about his brother.

Anyway, this "peer reviewed science" (PRS) you want is a double edged sword. Listen to what R.Dawson, I would retype what he said, but all you have to do is listen for about 6 mins. I will mention 1 thing he said though 'Mercury was slowly phased out'. Good?
Some people have lost faith in PRS, because it can be controlled. They don't trust 'them' anymore.
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Re: On aliens, the paranormal and other stuff

#262  Postby felltoearth » Jul 27, 2020 4:57 pm

JustStarDust wrote:
Just please keep in mind that I don't want this crap to be true. Right?

It doesn’t matter what anyone wants to be true or not true. Truth doesn’t care what you want.
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Re: Tell me a simple effective argument against vaccine denial

#263  Postby SafeAsMilk » Jul 27, 2020 5:21 pm

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Some people have lost faith in PRS, because it can be controlled. They don't trust 'them' anymore.

When one sees what they put forward as an alternative, one doubts they ever had much of a grasp of PRS in the first place.
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Re: Tell me a simple effective argument against vaccine denial

#264  Postby newolder » Jul 27, 2020 6:17 pm

JustStarDust wrote:...

What you want here is irrelevant. (Apparently)

Unlike yourself, I haven't expressed a "want".
The video I posted wasn't even about his brother.

It wasn't a comparison between the posted list of un-evidenced claims & peer reviewed science either.
Anyway, this "peer reviewed science" (PRS) you want is a double edged sword. Listen to what R.Dawson, I would retype what he said, but all you have to do is listen for about 6 mins. I will mention 1 thing he said though 'Mercury was slowly phased out'. Good?
Some people have lost faith in PRS, because it can be controlled. They don't trust 'them' anymore.

There are instances where peer review has been manipulated but, because the results of scientific enquiry are repeatable or someone exposed the fraud, the manipulation is only ever short lived. You have failed to demonstrate a better method of inquiry and I won't hold my breath waiting.
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Re: On aliens, the paranormal and other stuff

#265  Postby laklak » Jul 27, 2020 7:57 pm

There's fired tortoise shells, goat entrails, tea leaves, yarrow stalks, and my personal choice, Magic 8 Ball. Don't be blinded by Science!
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Re: On aliens, the paranormal and other stuff

#266  Postby JustStarDust » Jul 27, 2020 8:22 pm

Well, found this PDF: 559 pages

http://www.chiropractic.org/wp-content/ ... vail-3.pdf

It's probably not 'trustworthy' as it comes from chiropractic.org? But it does list studies, etc. I haven't read all of it yet.
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Re: On aliens, the paranormal and other stuff

#267  Postby newolder » Jul 27, 2020 8:55 pm

^How do I know that link is not to peer reviewed science?

Apart from a lack of title, author name, affiliation and Journal publication reference, the citation to the source of the first chart is incorrect. :doh:
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Re: On aliens, the paranormal and other stuff

#268  Postby BlackBart » Jul 27, 2020 9:03 pm

Cool. Rational Skepticism has it's very own Waen Rhydd peat bog thread.
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Re: Tell me a simple effective argument against vaccine denial

#269  Postby chairman bill » Jul 30, 2020 11:12 am

JustStarDust wrote:... I will mention 1 thing he said though 'Mercury was slowly phased out'.


Mercury was never used in vaccines. What was used was a mercury compound. It's like hydrogen in a compound with oxygen; it doesn't behave as hydrogen because it's a compound, not hydrogen. Mercury compounds aren't mercury, they're compounds too, funnily enough.
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Re: Tell me a simple effective argument against vaccine denial

#270  Postby BlackBart » Jul 30, 2020 12:03 pm

chairman bill wrote:
JustStarDust wrote:... I will mention 1 thing he said though 'Mercury was slowly phased out'.


Mercury was never used in vaccines. What was used was a mercury compound. It's like hydrogen in a compound with oxygen; it doesn't behave as hydrogen because it's a compound, not hydrogen. Mercury compounds aren't mercury, they're compounds too, funnily enough.


You mean they put explosive gas in our drinking water?!!! :ahrr:
It was prolly that there Bill Gates fellah, I'll tell you what. :nono:
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Re: On aliens, the paranormal and other stuff

#271  Postby Mike_L » Jul 30, 2020 12:13 pm

...and dimethylmercury in the vitamin B12 shots!



(No, not really).
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Re: On aliens, the paranormal and other stuff

#272  Postby JustStarDust » Aug 01, 2020 6:56 am



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Re: On aliens, the paranormal and other stuff

#273  Postby felltoearth » Aug 01, 2020 12:58 pm

Two hours? You post that and only that and expect people to watch the whole thing?

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Re: On aliens, the paranormal and other stuff

#274  Postby JustStarDust » Aug 02, 2020 8:28 am

felltoearth wrote:Two hours? You post that and only that and expect people to watch the whole thing?

Avoid nasty drugs, indeed.


Yeh I should watch Shartwars or Xmen, etc.

...Again though, YouTube has a function in which you can watch a video, faster to save time (or slower if you really want).
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Re: On aliens, the paranormal and other stuff

#275  Postby BlackBart » Aug 02, 2020 2:28 pm

Why would we need to watch two hours of crap if he actually has some UFO tech?

Has he got any?

Or any actual evidence other anecdote?

No?

He can go forth and multiply then.
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Re: On aliens, the paranormal and other stuff

#276  Postby felltoearth » Aug 02, 2020 4:10 pm

Why would I watch anything on 2x speed if it has useful information or is making a good point to ponder. I actually don’t understand the 2x function. You are essentially admitting something isn’t worth the time to pay attention to.
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Re: On aliens, the paranormal and other stuff

#277  Postby BlackBart » Aug 02, 2020 4:15 pm

You can listen to bollocks in a chipmunk voice? :dunno:
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Re: Tell me a simple effective argument against vaccine denial

#278  Postby campermon » Aug 02, 2020 7:28 pm

BlackBart wrote:
chairman bill wrote:
JustStarDust wrote:... I will mention 1 thing he said though 'Mercury was slowly phased out'.


Mercury was never used in vaccines. What was used was a mercury compound. It's like hydrogen in a compound with oxygen; it doesn't behave as hydrogen because it's a compound, not hydrogen. Mercury compounds aren't mercury, they're compounds too, funnily enough.


You mean they put explosive gas in our drinking water?!!! :ahrr:
It was prolly that there Bill Gates fellah, I'll tell you what. :nono:


Dihydrogen Monoxide (DHMO) is a colorless and odorless chemical compound, also referred to by some as Dihydrogen Oxide, Hydrogen Hydroxide, Hydronium Hydroxide, or simply Hydric acid. Its basis is the highly reactive hydroxyl radical, a species shown to mutate DNA, denature proteins, disrupt cell membranes, and chemically alter critical neurotransmitters. The atomic components of DHMO are found in a number of caustic, explosive and poisonous compounds such as Sulfuric Acid, Nitroglycerine and Ethyl Alcohol.

https://www.dhmo.org/facts.htm

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Re: On aliens, the paranormal and other stuff

#279  Postby BlackBart » Aug 02, 2020 9:01 pm

No wonder it's got rainbows in it. :nono:
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Re: On aliens, the paranormal and other stuff

#280  Postby campermon » Aug 02, 2020 9:33 pm

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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