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Re: Peter Hitchens

#21  Postby Kenaz » Apr 14, 2014 1:02 am

What are we supposed to be 'debunking' here -- his political opinions and stances on subjects? Come on.
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Re: Peter Hitchens

#22  Postby Thomas Eshuis » Apr 14, 2014 4:09 am

Kenaz wrote:What are we supposed to be 'debunking' here -- his political opinions and stances on subjects? Come on.

Feel free to suggest a more appropriate subforum for this thread.
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Re: Peter Hitchens

#23  Postby Kenaz » Apr 14, 2014 3:27 pm

General discussion or perhaps News & Politics...
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Re: Peter Hitchens

#24  Postby poolshark » Apr 21, 2014 11:35 am

Animavore wrote:
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I'm With Stupid wrote:Peter Hitchens (if you'll allow me to stereotype for a second) is exactly what you'd expect of some privileged, public school educated person in his political views. Although interestingly, like Christopher, he was actually a staunch socialist and even a member of the Labour party in his younger days. I find it strange that someone can basically do a complete 180 degrees turn in their political views.


Well there is a saying "right wing before 30 - no heart. Left wing after 30 - no brain". Not necessarily agreeing with that as I am an old lefty myself.


If there is any truth in this saying it might be referring to the fact that what starts off left and liberal when you're younger becomes right and conservative as you get older while a new left comes into play.


No its generally referring to what I perceive as the growing acceptance of `whats really possible' over `what should be the case' idealism, that occurs as one gets older. I feel that the right wing mind typically traverses the full spectrum to arrive at the `whats really possible' end and usually has no time for normative idealism. This is why we often hear cries of `living in a dreamworld' and so on aimed at those with a more socialistic bent. And indeed, those people do exist. My own instinct tells me that a well rounded person should not reside at either end of this spectrum, but include a mixture of both stances in their worldview.
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Re: Peter Hitchens

#25  Postby Nostalgia » Jun 08, 2014 9:26 pm

I'm With Stupid wrote:I find it strange that someone can basically do a complete 180 degrees turn in their political views.


Not all that uncommon to be honest.

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Re: Peter Hitchens

#26  Postby The Plc » Jun 08, 2014 10:03 pm

Journalists who've spent their careers in the mainstream corporate press are not representative examples. It's rather like citing Wayne Rooney as an example of a football supporter who switched fanatical allegiance from their childhood football club and saying it's uncommon. I rather suspect Phillips would be churning out Marxist dialectics for the British Communist Party newsletter if it paid well and gave her a platform. As for Peter Hitchens, from what I've gathered from his own accounts of his political and religious conversions, they whiffed so much of pathetic rationalisation, which further belies his ideological shallowness.
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Re: Peter Hitchens

#27  Postby mrjonno » Jun 21, 2014 8:54 pm

I'm glad Peter Hitchens is British because if he was American would bring a level of intellectualism to the Tea Party that it lacks. He would be a potential President which is a very unpleasant thought
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Re: Peter Hitchens

#28  Postby Jehannum » Aug 30, 2018 2:56 pm

The first time I saw Christopher on TV I really liked what he had to say.

Then a couple of weeks later I saw a familiar face and the name "Hitchens" come up and I couldn't understand what had happened! The guy who'd been making so much sense now sounded like a complete oaf.

It took a bit of research to find they were two different people.

Quite a fascinating sibling relationship, that one.
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