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#1  Postby Teox » Oct 02, 2011 12:19 pm

The long-term influence of an artificial stimulant like an energy drink will be detrimental to your overall health, be aware that people do die from energy drinks. Energy drinks should not be used when exercising as fluid loss from sweating and the diuretic activity of caffeine can cause severe dehydration. It is dangerous to consume energy drink before playing sports - it may increase your risk of having a heart attack or stroke.

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#2  Postby campermon » Oct 02, 2011 12:27 pm

I'm not convinced.

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#3  Postby Mike_L » Oct 02, 2011 12:45 pm

Guarana couldn't save the Guaraní.....

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#4  Postby Mike_L » Oct 02, 2011 1:26 pm

I'm no fan of energy drinks (always get a headache if I consume even one of them), but the article seems to contain quite a lot of unsubstantiated hyperbole: "Are you craving for a chemical that eats holes in your brain?"

I'm also not a fan of aspartame (see Wiki item: Aspartame Controversy), but it's worth noting that the artificial sweetener is not unique to energy drinks. (It's also found in non-caffeinated sodas, in chewing gums and in numerous other "diet" and "sugarfree" products.) And not all energy drinks contain aspartame; some are sweetened with sugar.

And there's no evidence that taurine is a problematic ingredient in energy drinks....
Despite being present in many energy foods, taurine has not been proven to be energy-giving. A study of mice hereditarily unable to transport taurine suggests that it is needed for proper maintenance and functioning of skeletal muscles. In addition, it has been shown to be effective in removing fatty liver deposits in rats, preventing liver disease, and reducing cirrhosis in tested animals. There is also evidence that taurine is beneficial for adult human blood pressure and possibly, the alleviation of other cardiovascular ailments (in humans suffering essential hypertension, taurine supplementation resulted in measurable decreases in blood pressure).

Taurine is regularly used as an ingredient in energy drinks, with many containing 1000 mg per serving, and some as much as 2000 mg. A 2003 study by the European Food Safety Authority found no adverse effects for up to 1,000 mg of taurine per kilogram of body weight per day.

A review published in 2008 found no documented reports of negative or positive health effects associated with the amount of taurine used in energy drinks, concluding that "The amounts of guarana, taurine, and ginseng found in popular energy drinks are far below the amounts expected to deliver either therapeutic benefits or adverse events".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taurine#Energy_drinks

It's probable that most of the adverse effects associated with energy drinks are simply attributable to the very high caffeine content (courtesy of guarana). Of course, some individuals are more caffeine-sensitive than others. But, for the most part, the occasional consumption of an energy drink is probably harmless. As with coffee (and just about everything else), moderation is key.
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#5  Postby Ihavenofingerprints » Oct 02, 2011 1:43 pm

Red Bull gives you holes in your wings
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#6  Postby mark1961 » Oct 02, 2011 1:56 pm

Aspartame is sometimes the bane of my life. I can easily distinguish it from "natural" sugar. It tastes "artificial", sickly and generally ruins the taste of products that contain it.

It's particularly nasty when they put it in yoghurt. :ill: :yuk: :puke:
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#7  Postby Alan B » Oct 02, 2011 8:20 pm

On the label of Red Bull they note 'Not suitable for diabetics'.
So what is in it that requires this labelling?
It can't be the sugar content alone because other 'sugar-loaded' fizzy drinks do not have this warning.
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#8  Postby The_Metatron » Oct 02, 2011 8:46 pm

I've never had an "energy" drink. Don't know what a red bull tastes like. Not a problem.
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#9  Postby Paul G » Oct 02, 2011 9:16 pm

Anything that gives you such a big buzz and burst of energy probably isn't going to be good for you.
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#10  Postby PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn » Oct 02, 2011 9:55 pm

I looked at the site. fucking hell, written by the stupids...... (actually at this point I've decided I should put in an apology I'm going to use the word fuck on quite a regular occurrence because words are failing me with regards the stupidity)

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Aspartame chemical (hence sugar free ).  Chemical?  Yes


fuck me sideways with a Christmas tree, what is glucose, oh yeah, a fucking chemical, whats that your breathing, just chemicals.... what makes up the majority of the drink, only a fucking chemical called dihydrogen monoxide.... fuck sake,

just for reference
"wiki wrote:In chemistry, a chemical substance is a form of matter that has constant chemical composition and characteristic properties.[1] It cannot be separated into components by physical separation methods, i.e. without breaking chemical bonds. They can be solids, liquids or gases.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_substance

Glucuronolactone. All right. You say: It is a metabolite of glucose naturally occurring in the human body.
OK. So it is not bad, right?

Red Bull states on their website that glucuronolactone in Red Bull is synthetically produced... What means synthetical ? It means artificially. It's fake.


again, fucking stupid BS . notice they differentiate a metabolite from a chemical, its not like its a molecule with specific composition and characteristics.... oh wait, yes it fucking is. but back on the subject. oh hell its synthetic...... the horror, its not like those naturally synthesized(......) metabolites found in cells. oh hell those are synthesized as well. fuck me we're all going to die from this synthesized shit.... and whats more its fake, you know, the fact it shares the same molecular composition and characteristics means fuck all, its like shoving a Ferrari badge on a ford, its not the same..... wait a minute yes it fucking is. as my previous wiki quote states, the same molecular formula and characteristics. it is the same. where do you think the "natural"("non-fake") stuff came from, thats right it was synthesized by the cells. in this case its part of the break down of glucose, a sugar that is made in on of two ways, 1 via gluconeogenesis with in the body, but also by photo-fucking-synthesis. thats right thos fucking plants are making fucking fake synthetic glucose and glucose metabolites........

Scientists can chemically reproduce sea water (synthetically) but when you put fish in this synthetic sea water - they die.
WTH, quick go get the fish out the aquarium. dont want them to die in that fake sea water.
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I mean the fact it contains the same chemical compounds doesn't matter, its fake. oh wait, yet againg, fucking bs. in fact synthetic salt can have its benefits, as depending on blends it can increased levels of calcium and magnesium required to ensure the inverts have the correct alkalinity and building material for their calciferous shells. as well as allowing for the differences in the quality of water used to reconstitute the sea water

taurine and vitamins, same synthetic BS that they spout. as it happens humans naturally produce taurine, its required for several metabolic processes. other animals, for example cats are unable to produce it, and so are dependent on it via their diet - not getting it results in blindness and others
wiki wrote:Taurine is an essential dietary requirement for feline health, since cats cannot synthesize the compound. The absence of taurine causes a cat's retina to slowly degenerate, causing eye problems and (eventually) irreversible blindness — a condition known as central retinal degeneration (CRD),[59][60] as well as hair loss and tooth decay. Decreased plasma taurine concentration has been demonstrated to be associated with feline dilated cardiomyopathy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taurine

Caffeine speeds along your urination cycle, extracting calcium from your body . That is how you develop osteoporosis.
Caffeine in Red Bull is synthetically produced.


oh fuck, I'll need to pee more often ..... oh wait that also happens when I drink a lot. ah save me from the fake stuff but thats not the only horrors

[url]Caffeine dependency is the physiological addiction. Caffeine works by blocking the chemical that makes you naturally drowsy. It increases dopamine in the brain. Dopamine is one of the chemicals responsible for feeling happy. Now you know why you feel that crave for an energy drink. :)[/url]

see that, they're turning you into a fucking druggie..... oh wait same can be said of that natural drink coffee, or tea, (or cola) (etc) yes some people seem to be addicted to caffine, but its effect is to a fair degree related to the placebo effect
Studies with placebo conditions have been done to demonstrate that the effects of caffeine depend greatly on the consumer’s expectations.[10] When heavy caffeine drinkers are led to believe that they are consuming caffeine containing beverages, they tend to perform better regardless of the caffeine content within the sample that was given to them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_effects_of_caffeine#Withdrawal

Alcohol can be twice as dangerous when mixed with an Energy drink, according to a study published by Wake Forest University School of Medicine. Caffeine and alcohol have the opposite effect - caffeine makes you excited, and the alcohol is a depressant.


oh hell, we're all going to die, fuck sake, did they even read the article they linked too. first off, they do NOT have the opposite effect. yes caffeine is a stimulant, it binds to several adenosine receptors, some of which will release dopamine (as wiki states it "which is involved in reward and arousal") and has a role in increasing adrenalin (epinephrine) levels and as a result fat and glucose utilization, resulting in an increase in energy levels.

and yes alcohol is a depressant, it bind to the GABA-A receptor, which increases the effects of GABA, GABA is the chief inhibitory neurotransmitter, required to balance the effects of the other excitatory neurotransmitters.

so effecting two separate pathways, and not directly acting against each other. if we look at the article they linked to
http://www.drugs.com/news/alcohol-energy-drink-combo-riskier-than-booze-alone-study-says-30802.html
it says
The stimulation from caffeinated alcoholic drinks counters the sedating effects of alcohol, making drinkers feel like they're not quite as affected by the liquor, Marczinski said. However, the energy drinks don't alter the level of behavioral impairment, just the perception of it.


so the risk is (as it goes into further on) that people aren't aware of how pissed they really are, and so are potentially more likely to do something like driving - an activity where they will be suffering the effects of the booze, and the increased risks that pertains.

in fact teh article further demonstrates the completely BS nature of the claim that booze and caffeine have the opposite effects
"There's this perception that if you drink caffeine, it will sober you up, and it's just completely not true," Goldberger said. "Because the effects of the caffeine work in one region of the brain and the effects of the alcohol work in another, so they don't cancel each other out. Some people call it wide-awake drunk."


Glucose (sugar) Energy drinks contain lots of sugar! For instance a can of Red Bull contains 27 grams of sugar. Consuming energy drinks leads to increased risk of getting diabetes according to the study conducted in 2011. The sugar in energy drinks causes insulin spikes which later result in a “crash like” feeling.


run for your lives, sugar is gonna kill you.....
first off, sugar high is a standard thing for something that lacks complex carbohydrates, and because it is just sugar, and no complex carbohydrates, once the sugar is absorbed there is a drop in the sugar levels while the body switches from glucose absorption to glucose production. eating sugars for some bizarre reason increases the sugar in your blood, the body reacts to this by shutting of glucose production and starts absorbing it (insulin tells the liver and muscles to absorb the glucose), this results in a sharp increase in blood sugar levels (both producing and absorbing sugars) followed by absorbing the glucose from the blood. this is when the energy is freely available to the cells, (hence feeling energetic). the switch from glucose absorption to glucose liberation/creation is triggered by glucagon (the opposite to insulin essentially) which is reached when the blood glucose levels fall below a certain point, added to the lag for glucose liberation/production there is a period when the cells are limited in energy available hence the crash, but its short term. the reason complex carbohydrates avoid this is they take longer to be liberated into the bloodstream and as a result dont cause the dramatic peak and have a more steady rate of release, so no dramatic peak and dip as a result.

looking at the article that was the basis for the article they linked too, the diabetes risk is one that is being misrepresented.
Because obesity is epidemic, caloric increases from energy-drink consumption become important. Additional calories may increase blood pressure, blood glucose levels, BMI, calcium deficiency, dental problems, depression, and low self-esteem.4,101,102
Sugar and caffeine may also synergistically increase postprandial hyperglycemia, which is of concern for children with diabetes
http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/early/2011/02/14/peds.2009-3592.full.pdf+html

simply put, fat people are at more risk of diabetes, increasing the calories consumed increases the risk. further the fact that both caffeine and sugar increase sugar levels, means those with diabetes are more at risk of suffering the sugar crash due to the increased sugar levels following the consumption of the drink.

whats more, the site reckons it has 12 different cures for cancer, the several of which starts with what sounds like a conspiracy theorys
The movie is full of information that shows how Dr.Burzynski was relentlessly attacked by the FDA on frivolous grounds. This doctor at one point was looking at LIFE in jail! Follow the money trail, it always leads straight to Big Pharma - ALWAYS!! When's the last time drugs cured anything? :)

The only thing that can cure anything is your own body, it's designed to heal itself, if given half a chance. But Big Pharma can't patent the ability of your body to heal.

Written over 50 years ago, Dr. Gerson found that diet could, and did, cure cancer.

After a number of cancer patients, who were diagnosed as terminal, shared their stories and their medical records with Garrett, it became abundantly clear that, contrary to the disinformation campaign spear-headed by the multi-billion dollar medical and pharmaceutical industry, a cure for virtually all cancers and chronic diseases does exist and has existed for over 80 years!

What you are about to watch does not carry the approval of organised medicine. The Food and Drug Administration, the American Cancer Society, and the American Medical Association have labelled it "fraud" and "quackery".

In fact, the FDA and other agencies of government have used every means at their disposal to prevent this story from being told. They have arrested citizens for holding public meetings to tell others of their convictions on this subject. They have confiscated films and books.

Cancer is a nutritional-deficiency disease, like scurvy or pellagra. It is not caused by a bacterium, virus or mysterious toxin, but by the absence of a substance that modern man has removed from his diet. That substance is Vitamin B-17, also known as Amygdalin or Laetrile.


all in all, the site is a fucking fail
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#11  Postby Gallstones » Oct 03, 2011 4:17 am

Paul G wrote:Anything that gives you such a big buzz and burst of energy probably isn't going to be good for you.


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#12  Postby Gallstones » Oct 03, 2011 4:19 am

They taste like shit, they are grossly overpriced and it is the hype people are buying.
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#13  Postby Mike_L » Oct 03, 2011 6:49 am

PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn wrote:I looked at the site. fucking hell, written by the stupids...... (actually at this point I've decided I should put in an apology I'm going to use the word fuck on quite a regular occurrence because words are failing me with regards the stupidity).....

[A well-written point-by-point dismantling of quack-crap]

.....all in all, the site is a fucking fail

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#14  Postby Jumbo » Oct 03, 2011 8:06 am

WTH, quick go get the fish out the aquarium. dont want them to die in that fake sea water.

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I have to mix this stuff up every two to three weeks for water changes in my marine aquarium. I can't imagine the effect on the fish and corals if i decide to just chuck the nice pure RO water in there with out the marine salt mix. Actually it would probably be the same as if i went to the nearest bit of coast and grabbed sea water from there. The stuff i mix is far better for my tank.

Am i right in thinking its a case of website says natural=good, man made=bad ?
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#15  Postby Doubtdispelled » Oct 03, 2011 8:31 am

Mike_L wrote:
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn wrote:I looked at the site. fucking hell, written by the stupids...... (actually at this point I've decided I should put in an apology I'm going to use the word fuck on quite a regular occurrence because words are failing me with regards the stupidity).....

[A well-written point-by-point dismantling of quack-crap]

.....all in all, the site is a fucking fail

Excellent! :clap:

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#16  Postby Alan B » Oct 03, 2011 9:00 am

Doubtdispelled wrote:
Mike_L wrote:
PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn wrote:I looked at the site. fucking hell, written by the stupids...... (actually at this point I've decided I should put in an apology I'm going to use the word fuck on quite a regular occurrence because words are failing me with regards the stupidity).....

[A well-written point-by-point dismantling of quack-crap]

.....all in all, the site is a fucking fail

Excellent! :clap:

+1 :clap:

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But I would suggest that the site is written for the stupids by the not so stupids... After all, they're trying to sell this stuff to people who are not very bright or educated, methinks.
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#17  Postby alinamtvilec » Oct 03, 2011 10:15 am

PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn,

While I don't care about energy drinks, I could not walk by your ignorant take on cancer documentaries. How many did you watch ? How much do you know about this subject ? It seems to me very little. You have a lot to learn. Cancer is a big business $7,000
- a 30 day supply by Pfizer.

You mentioned Dr. Burzynski. What do you know about him ?

Dr. Burzynski cured cancer . Here is trailer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lXgnb6tdBY
His research is a breakthrough in cancer treatment but certain corporations are not "excited" to have a "person" patent the technology - not a corporation. So they filed law suits to stop him in his tracks. Research for yourself.

You also mentioned Dr. Gerson . It always amazes me to see people quoting something they have no knowledge of. I have read his book : A Cancer Therapy: Results of Fifty Cases and the Cure of Advanced Cancer .I suggest you study a little bit before misleading people here. I only decided to write because my neighbour had a brain tumour that went away after 6 month on Gerson Therapy ( yes, by doing enemas and fresh juices ) . Not chemotherapy.

I checked the above mentioned website : there were 14 of cancer documentaries, not 12. You probably did not even bother to look thoroughly.

Rick Simpson is another interesting man worth mentioning. He helped some 3000 people to get rid of cancer by hemp oil. Almost ended up in jail for curing people for free ( after all, cannabis is illegal in States) .
Here is the science for you - very well educated person :) a 1000 plus medical studies :)

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I usually don't comment but I could not walk by looking at you lack of knowledge in cancer subject. I suggest that if you "pose" yourself as authority here, at least do your homework.

Google such names as Hoxsey and others and perhaps one day it will all come to you :)

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#18  Postby Mike_L » Oct 03, 2011 11:49 am

Dr Burzynski and his "antineoplastons".....



Tracing the biochemistry involved in Burzynski's synthesis of antineoplastons shows that the substances are without value for cancer treatment.
- Saul Green, Ph.D.
Full exposé at the Quackwatch website.

And here is Quackwatch's main page for cancer patients who might otherwise be misled.... A Special Message for Cancer Patients Seeking "Alternative" Treatments
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#19  Postby Paul G » Oct 03, 2011 12:13 pm

Gallstones wrote:
Paul G wrote:Anything that gives you such a big buzz and burst of energy probably isn't going to be good for you.


Why?


Because most things that do so aren't good for you.
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#20  Postby alinamtvilec » Oct 03, 2011 12:17 pm

Wow, Mike, you are showing some lack of knowledge of who "Dr. Stephen Barrett of Quackwatch is :)

"Dr. Stephen Barrett of Quackwatch Exposed In Court Cases":

http://www.canlyme.com/quackwatch.html

quote:
... At trial, under a heated cross-examination by Negrete, Barrett conceded that he was not a Medical Board Certified psychiatrist because he had failed the certification exam.

This was a major revelation since Barrett had provided supposed expert testimony as a psychiatrist and had testified in numerous court cases.

Barrett also had said that he was a legal expert even though he had no formal legal training.

The most damming testimony before the jury, under the intense cross-examination by Negrete, was that Barrett had filed similar defamation lawsuits against almost 40 people across the country within the past few years and had not won one single one at trial.

During the course of his examination, Barrett also had to concede his ties to the AMA, Federal Trade Commission (FTC) and Food & Drug Administration (FDA). ...

So, Quack exposing quack :)

It looks like you guys really don't know anything about the Quack-watch :) - on the payroll of Big Pharma

Do a little research but I can see that you enjoy cartoons better :)

Take care, Quack -Quack :)

The guy at Quack-Watch is totally in bed with the pharmaceutical industry. :)

"Dr." Stephen Barrett is not even a doctor yet he calls himself one on his web site. He was forced to give up his medical license in 1993. This is fraud!

Here is a good read Mike :)
http://www.curezone.org/forums/am.asp?i=445472

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