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Re: This pseudo-intellectual bullshit hurts me.

#21  Postby Cito di Pense » Mar 09, 2020 7:23 am

Hermit wrote:item 4712 (Take people who can't manage apostrophes seriously).


How should one manage apostrophes seriously? With great seriousness? That seriousness is yours for the taking. You can have it...

as long as pseudo-intellectual bullshit is causing harm out there in television-land.
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Re: This pseudo-intellectual bullshit hurts me.

#22  Postby Hermit » Mar 09, 2020 7:33 am

Cito di Pense wrote:
Hermit wrote:item 4712 (Take people who can't manage apostrophes seriously).

How should one manage apostrophes seriously? With great seriousness? That seriousness is yours for the taking. You can have it...

as long as pseudo-intellectual bullshit is causing harm out there in television-land.

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Re: 0.999... = 1, dammit!

#23  Postby Thommo » Mar 09, 2020 7:52 am

The links contain ignorant gibberish, not proofs. It's really not worth trying to spell out where they go wrong.
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Neo-Dada and science

#24  Postby jane » Mar 09, 2020 8:55 am

Hi I am new here but I see that Magister colin leslie dean seems to get rubbished a lot
So I did some searching on him and found this-he is a Neo-Dadaist :-as well as a postmodernist and nihilist -though he says he is not a nihilist because nihilism also ends in meaninglessness

Dada
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dada
Dada (/ˈdɑːdɑː/) or Dadaism was an art movement of the European avant-garde in the early 20th century, with early centers in Zürich, Switzerland, at the Cabaret Voltaire (circa 1916); New York Dada began circa 1915,[2][3] and after 1920 Dada flourished in Paris. Developed in reaction to World War I, the Dada movement consisted of artists who rejected the logic, reason, and aestheticism of modern capitalist society, instead expressing nonsense, irrationality, and anti-bourgeois protest in their works ....Many Dadaists believed that the 'reason' and 'logic' of bourgeois capitalist society had led people into war. They expressed their rejection of that ideology in artistic expression that appeared to reject logic and embrace chaos and irrationality


So Deans Neo-dada is this

http://www.skeptiko-forum.com/threads/neo-dada-and-science.4485/

Neo-Dada-the work of colin leslie dean-Australian

The Neo-Dada of colin leslie dean

rejects the logic, reason, and aestheticism of modern capitalist society, it rejects mathematics science philosophy and the consensus aesthetic it rejects the commodification of art by capitalism


Neo-Dada rejects the entrapment of the mind by mathematics science and philosophy

Dean takes Dada into Neo-Dada into mathematics science and philosophy and proves they are bankrupt systems which end in meaninglessness

Deans philosophy is A philosophy to dangerous to acknowledge

https://www.reddit.com/r/badbadmathematics/comments/f3hinf/a_philosophy_to_dangerous_to_acknowledge/

Paraphrasing (Dada)
"[Deans] philosophy is the sickest, most paralyzing and most destructive thing that has ever originated from the brain of man."

Paraphrasing (Dada)
"[Dean] lay waste to everything in its path... [It is ] a systematic work of destruction and demoralization... In the end it became nothing but an act of sacrilege."(Dada )

Dean takes Dada into Neo-Dada poetry

Neo-Dada poetry-he is Australia's leading erotic poet

http://gamahucherpress.yellowgum.com/book-genre/poetry/

or

https://www.scribd.com/document/35520015/List-of-FREE-Erotic-Poetry-Books-by-Gamahucher-Press

into anti-poetry

http://gamahucherpress.yellowgum.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/AESTHEantipoetry.pdf

or
https://www.scribd.com/document/56935130/THE-AESTHETICS-OF-ANTI-POETRY-MANIFESTO-POETRY-CRITICISM-BY-AN-ANTI-POET

THE AESTHETICS OF ANTI-POETRY MANIFESTO

Neo-Dada is an aesthetic of incorectness

http://gamahucherpress.yellowgum.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/AESTHETINCORE.pdf

or
https://www.scribd.com/doc/56935525/THE-AESTHETICS-OF-INCORECTNESS-The-freeing-up-of-thinking-by-THE-ARSEHOLING-OF-ACADEMIC-WANKERS-TYRANNY-AND-MONOPoLY-OF-WHAT-IS-CORRECT

Neo-Dada is an attempt to free the mind from an entrapment in mathematics, science, philosophy and consumer society-it liberates and sets you free
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Re: Neo-Dada and science

#25  Postby aban57 » Mar 09, 2020 9:09 am

Since "dada" is the child word for horse in French. I suggest the author changes this name, if they want to look less ridiculous. Although, considering what it entails, it might be impossible.
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Re: Neo-Dada and science

#26  Postby OlivierK » Mar 09, 2020 9:49 am

Dean doesn't get rubbished here a lot.

Until a week ago, he'd never been mentioned here at all, which is about what you'd expect for someone who doesn't exist, and even as a literary hoax is almost completely unknown, no doubt due to the extraordinarily banal nature of his invented output.
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Re: Neo-Dada and science

#27  Postby Spearthrower » Mar 09, 2020 11:59 am

jane wrote:Hi I am new here but I see that Magister colin leslie dean seems to get rubbished a lot]


No you didn't.

You saw one thread where the guy's name was mentioned and people generally were like: who the fuck's this guy? And the general consensus was he's a nobody.

So my guess is that you are Dean and you trawl the internet looking for mentions of yourself.
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Re: This pseudo-intellectual bullshit hurts me.

#28  Postby Spearthrower » Mar 09, 2020 12:10 pm

Dean clearly skipped or slept through high school Biology classes or else he'd have known that there's a clear definition of life.

Perhaps Dean needs a remedial high school biology class so he's not on the internet proudly tooting his ignorance to the world?

Homeostasis, organization, metabolism, growth, adaptation, stimuli response, reproduction.

Next time Dean channels Jane to blow his own horn to strangers on the internet, he can start with the basics above, then once I've brought him up to speed with a 13 year old, we can then start talking about his erroneous beliefs in evolution.
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Re: 0.999... = 1, dammit!

#29  Postby Spearthrower » Mar 09, 2020 12:15 pm

Ahhh the nematode thread! Good times!
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Re: Neo-Dada and science

#30  Postby newolder » Mar 09, 2020 12:15 pm

Exactly, what are these traps of mathematics, science and philosophy of which you write? For example, I bought 4 (four) apples* for £1 just now but I am keen to pass them on to you and/or Dean at the bewilderingly low price of £33.33 each, or 2 (two) for £87.78. Neo-Dada folk are free to accept this thrice in a lifetime offer or remain trapped forever in their trolldom.
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Re: 0.999... = 1, dammit!

#31  Postby laklak » Mar 09, 2020 2:48 pm

I suggest an Intro to Calculus course, Jane, to clear up your evident confusion.
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Re: Neo-Dada and science

#32  Postby laklak » Mar 09, 2020 2:55 pm

Neo-Dada, huh? What's wrong with ordinary Dada, that's what I want to know. What's Neo got to do with it? I know there's a new Matrix movie planned but as far as I know there are no urinal water fountains or melting clocks involved. Maybe he has an anteater for a pet? That would be Dada.
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Re: 0.999... = 1, dammit!

#33  Postby Spearthrower » Mar 09, 2020 3:50 pm

This was one of the very first threads on this forum.

Ahh the good old days when everyone was a nematode except for the majority of the forum at that time who all seemed bloody mathematical geniuses!
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Re: Neo-Dada and science

#34  Postby campermon » Mar 09, 2020 5:00 pm

OlivierK wrote:Dean doesn't get rubbished here a lot.

Until a week ago, he'd never been mentioned here at all, which is about what you'd expect for someone who doesn't exist, and even as a literary hoax is almost completely unknown, no doubt due to the extraordinarily banal nature of his invented output.


Indeed.

I smell freshly laundered hosiery.

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Re: Neo-Dada and science

#35  Postby OlivierK » Mar 09, 2020 8:11 pm

I don't. I think that if jane had been here before, we'd have had this exact same bullshit before. Whoever is behind the Dean nonsense has been doing it for decades. As you can see from this, the schtick has never changed:

http://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopi ... 4&t=162638

Now, Australia has a proud tradition of literary hoaxes. We love us an Ern Malley, or are intrigued by a Helen Demidenko.

But the problem for "Colin Leslie Dean", is that whoever is behind trying to pull something similar is too witless, artless, and generally talentless to make a goer of it. Twenty years at the game, and all they've done is manage to bore people, even at some of the world's most boring sites like Yahoo Answers. I guess that could be considered a talent by someone with sufficiently low self-respect.
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Re: Neo-Dada and science

#36  Postby Spearthrower » Mar 09, 2020 8:18 pm

I'm not sure it's a hoax... reads more like an Australian Edgar Postrado to me if you remember him? MrIntelligentDesign. I have all the science, and no one else knows science etc.
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#37  Postby OlivierK » Mar 09, 2020 9:30 pm

"Dean" styles himself as Australia's leading erotic poet (self-publishing through Gamahucher [French for "head-giver"] Press) and yet a thorough Google fails to show up a single interview or writers' festival appearance, nor (oddly for someone whose entire online existence is self-promotion) even a book-signing. Not that a fictional writer couldn't pull a book-signing, all you need is a bored uni student (harder, admittedly, if the fictional writer is older), but still, not even that. So there's a bunch of self-published tracts, but nothing else for the biography. He's never even been mentioned in an article in his own local paper.

The website that hosts his output is owned by three guys who seem to be using it mainly as a gaming server. My hunch is that their names are Colin, Leslie, and Dean. Or not. What we do know is that despite a bunch of people who precisely share his appalling writing style bigging him up on the internet, he's spent decades failing to get even the slightest traction with his material. And evidence from elsewhere is that this will get pushed here way past the point of becoming boring and annoying, should that be allowed.
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Re: 0.999... = 1, dammit!

#38  Postby OlivierK » Mar 09, 2020 9:45 pm

laklak wrote:I suggest an Intro to Calculus course, Jane, to clear up your evident confusion.

No calculus required, just a short refresher on the decimal representation of fractions would do.

Jane (Dean)'s argument is:

8/9 is not an integer
9/9 is not an integer
but 9/9 = 1 which IS an integer.
OMG! Maths is a lie!!1!

In line 3, they've baldly claimed that their own premise in line 2 is false. Like most bullshit maths, it's self-debunking. Unlike better bullshit maths, the bullshit isn't buried deep enough to generate the slightest interest in finding it - it's right there in the open.
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Mathematics and science end in meaninglessness

#39  Postby jane » Mar 09, 2020 10:00 pm

Hi I have seen a lot of people on here rubbish Magister Colin leslie dean

So I will present his views on mathematics and science

"[Deans] philosophy is the sickest, most paralyzing and most destructive thing that has ever originated from the brain of man."

"[Dean] lay waste to everything in its path... [It is ] a systematic work of destruction and demoralization... In the end it became nothing but an act of sacrilege."


The Magister argues Mathematics and science end in meaninglessness
The Magister presents Mathematics and science end in meaninglessness in three papers

1) All things are possible

http://gamahucherpress.yellowgum.com/wp ... ssible.pdf


or

https://www.scribd.com/document/3240377 ... philosophy

where he shows

a finite number 1= a non-finite number 0.999.. thus maths ends in contradiction

a finite number comes to an end stops ie 2 a non-finite number does not end does not stop ie the infinite decimal 0.888...

or as dean puts another way

https://www.reddit.com/r/TopMindsOfReddit/comments/fd7v9z/erotic_poet_proves_mathematicsscience_end_in/

what does this notation mean-you see it but the result conflicts with your education so mind still refuses to see

0.888...

and

0.999....

and while you are at it

integer

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integer

"An integer (from the Latin integer meaning "whole")[note 1] is a number that can be written without a fractional component. For example, 21, 4, 0, and −2048 are integers, while 9.75, 5+1/2, and √2 are not.

The set of integers consists of zero (0), the positive natural numbers (1, 2, 3, ...), also called whole numbers or counting numbers"

1 is an integer

0.888.. is not an integer

0.999.. is not an integer

thus when an integer 1= a non-integer 0.999.. maths ends in contradiction


and

2) Mathematics ends in contradiction: 6 proofs

http://gamahucherpress.yellowgum.com/wp ... MATICS.pdf

or

https://www.scribd.com/document/4069762 ... tradiction

where one of the Magisters proofs shows 1+1=1
ie 1 number (2) + 1 number (3) = 1 number (5)
or 1 heap +1 heap + 1 heap


3) Godel ends in meaninglessness

http://gamahucherpress.yellowgum.com/wp-content/uploads/GODEL5.pdf

or

https://www.scribd.com/document/3297032 ... legitimate

A) Godels 1st theorem -is meaningless

1) Gödel’s 1st theorem-is meaningless

a) “Any effectively generated theory capable of expressing elementary arithmetic cannot be both consistent and complete. In particular, for any consistent, effectively generated formal theory that proves certain basic arithmetic truths, there is an arithmetical statement that is true,[1] but not provable in the theory (Kleene 1967, p. 250)


note
"... there is an arithmetical statement that is true..."

In other words there are true mathematical statements which cant be proven
But the fact is Godel cant tell us what makes a mathematical statement true thus his theorem is meaningless

If Godel said ""there will be 'undecidable' statements that can't be proved gibbly or obly"
but did not tell us what gibbly and obly are/meant you would have no trouble saying hey Godel your statement/ theorem is meaningless

same goes for true maths statement if he cant tell us what makes a maths statement true then his theorem is meaningless


B)Godels 2 nd theorem ends in paradox

Godel's 2nd theorem ends in paradox: if his 2nd theorem is true then he has proven what is theorem says is unprovable


Godel's 2nd theorem is about

"If an axiomatic system can be proven to be consistent and complete from
within itself, then it is inconsistent.”


But we have a paradox

Gödel is using a mathematical system
his theorem says a system cant be proven consistent


THUS A PARADOX

Godel must prove that a system cannot be proven to be consistent based upon the premise that the logic he uses must be consistent . If the logic he uses is not consistent then he cannot make a proof that is consistent. So he must assume that his logic is consistent so he can make a proof of the impossibility of proving a system to be consistent. But if his proof is true then he has proved that the logic he
uses to make the proof must be consistent, but his proof proves that
this cannot be done
THUS A PARADOX


There you are

"[Deans] philosophy is the sickest, most paralyzing and most destructive thing that has ever originated from the brain of man."

"[Dean] lay waste to everything in its path... [It is ] a systematic work of destruction and demoralization... In the end it became nothing but an act of sacrilege."
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Re: Mathematics and science end in meaninglessness

#40  Postby Spearthrower » Mar 09, 2020 10:02 pm

Stop spamming your vacuous dross on this website.

Even a child could work out you're the same person, so even at the most basic level you're deeply dishonest.
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