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Re: UK: Belief in ghosts is rising

#281  Postby Spearthrower » Jan 04, 2020 3:54 am

ORZIL wrote:Are rationalist evidences valid?


You're supposed to be arguing for the existence of ghosts.

It's expository how little that has become your focus - you appear to think that first you should attempt to tear down every edifice of knowledge then there might be room for your claim.

This is a characteristic of all peddlers of woo.
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Re: UK: Belief in ghosts is rising

#282  Postby Fallible » Jan 04, 2020 10:30 am

ORZIL wrote:Are rationalist evidences valid?


No.
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Re: UK: Belief in ghosts is rising

#283  Postby newolder » Jan 04, 2020 10:40 am

Fallible wrote:
ORZIL wrote:Are rationalist evidences valid?


No.


Oh good, that means I can post this Harry Hill/Derek Acorah tube:

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Re: UK: Belief in ghosts is rising

#284  Postby BlackBart » Jan 04, 2020 10:50 am

Poor old Derek has just dropped off the twig. Didn't see that coming.
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Re: UK: Belief in ghosts is rising

#285  Postby newolder » Jan 04, 2020 10:57 am

The Rochdale Herald
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Derek Acorah to be guest speaker at his own funeral next week
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Re: UK: Belief in ghosts is rising

#286  Postby Fallible » Jan 04, 2020 12:00 pm

:whistle:
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Re: UK: Belief in ghosts is rising

#287  Postby BlackBart » Jan 05, 2020 5:39 pm

ORZIL wrote:Is this forum allowed to cite links from Wikipedia?

Here's an idea. Try reading the Forum User Agreement. That way you'll be able to work it out for yourself and avoid looking like a pudgy faced eight year old asking his Mum annoying questions every thirty seconds.
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Re: UK: Belief in ghosts is rising

#288  Postby ORZIL » Jan 06, 2020 6:34 pm

I am not a researcher and I have no empirical evidence. maybe in the future!
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Re: UK: Belief in ghosts is rising

#289  Postby Fallible » Jan 06, 2020 7:05 pm

Sure.
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Re: UK: Belief in ghosts is rising

#290  Postby BlackBart » Jan 06, 2020 7:42 pm

ORZIL wrote:I am not a researcher and I have no empirical evidence.


Obviously and obviously.

maybe in the future!


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Re: UK: Belief in ghosts is rising

#291  Postby Spearthrower » Jan 06, 2020 11:38 pm

ORZIL wrote:I am not a researcher and I have no empirical evidence. maybe in the future!



See you in the notional future then.
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Re: UK: Belief in ghosts is rising

#292  Postby ORZIL » Jan 07, 2020 8:16 pm

Spearthrower wrote:
ORZIL wrote:I am not a researcher and I have no empirical evidence. maybe in the future!



See you in the notional future then.


I don't know if there are spirits or not, but maybe one day, if there is empirical evidence, we can find out something. :thumbup:
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Re: UK: Belief in ghosts is rising

#293  Postby BlackBart » Jan 07, 2020 8:20 pm

The same statement would be true for Pink Unicorns, Fairies, Spiny Norman or the other eleventy billion things for which there is no evidence, so it's pretty much worthless.
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Re: UK: Belief in ghosts is rising

#294  Postby Fallible » Jan 07, 2020 8:24 pm

ORZIL wrote:
Spearthrower wrote:
ORZIL wrote:I am not a researcher and I have no empirical evidence. maybe in the future!



See you in the notional future then.


I don't know if there are spirits or not, but maybe one day, if there is empirical evidence, we can find out something. :thumbup:


And yet a few months ago...

ORZIL wrote:Spirits are the souls of the dead.
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Re: UK: Belief in ghosts is rising

#295  Postby Spearthrower » Jan 08, 2020 3:31 am

ORZIL wrote:
Spearthrower wrote:
ORZIL wrote:I am not a researcher and I have no empirical evidence. maybe in the future!



See you in the notional future then.


I don't know if there are spirits or not, but maybe one day, if there is empirical evidence, we can find out something. :thumbup:



So what you're saying is that there's no good reason to believe in ghosts now.
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Re: UK: Belief in ghosts is rising

#296  Postby ORZIL » Feb 03, 2020 2:04 pm

activate english subtitles ok

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kg_BybNufwo
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Re: UK: Belief in ghosts is rising

#297  Postby Cito di Pense » Feb 03, 2020 2:10 pm

ORZIL wrote:activate english subtitles ok

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kg_BybNufwo



The 'subject' says "it really is outside the scope of my language". How are the subtitles supposed to help us? Do you think the subtitles translate something outside her capacity to describe? If you do, you're an idiot.

I'm just not inclined to listen to somebody try to describe in words something they admit they can't put into words.

Besides that, even at face value, it's nothing but an anecdote, and of course you know that is not data.
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Re: UK: Belief in ghosts is rising

#298  Postby newolder » Feb 03, 2020 2:15 pm

A pregnant woman had a headache. What evidence of ghosts is presented in the next hour of this monologue? Can you summarise the evidence (not the anecdote), please?
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Re: UK: Belief in ghosts is rising

#299  Postby Spearthrower » Feb 03, 2020 3:09 pm

ORZIL wrote:activate english subtitles ok

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kg_BybNufwo



Its 1 hour and 10 minute video of which all you've told us is 'turn on subtitles'.

No thanks, I've got a lot better things to do with my time than just to cast around trying to find what it is you want to talk about.

This is a common occurrence with you Orzil. Just write whatever it is you want to discuss; show that you're willing to put in a modicum of effort too, or else why should other people?
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Re: UK: Belief in ghosts is rising

#300  Postby campermon » Feb 05, 2020 7:07 pm

ORZIL wrote:activate english subtitles ok

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kg_BybNufwo


Kindly summarise the key points for the forum.

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