Why do so many Americans believe in sea serpents?

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Re: Why do so many Americans believe in sea serpents?

#21  Postby DarthHelmet86 » Aug 17, 2013 10:43 am

Bunyip. Better add Australians to that title...and add "believe in sea serpents and drop bears". Cause everyone here believes in those two things...cause they are real...and will kill you I promise. :drunk:
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Re: Why do so many Americans believe in sea serpents?

#22  Postby Matt_B » Aug 17, 2013 10:54 am

DarthHelmet86 wrote:Bunyip. Better add Australians to that title...and add "believe in sea serpents and drop bears". Cause everyone here believes in those two things...cause they are real...and will kill you I promise. :drunk:


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Re: Why do so many Americans believe in sea serpents?

#23  Postby DarthHelmet86 » Aug 17, 2013 11:00 am

Sure we have enough but telling some unknowing people about drop bears is well worth the effort of making them up. The first time that great big gum tree creaks they are running for safety. And with all our wonderful, weird and deadly creatures the made up ones are so much easier to believe in.
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Re: Why do so many Americans believe in sea serpents?

#24  Postby Arcanyn » Aug 17, 2013 11:06 am

Maybe it's just that American sea serpents are easier to spot because they spontaneously combust more often.
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Re: Why do so many Americans believe in sea serpents?

#25  Postby BlackBart » Aug 17, 2013 1:13 pm

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Re: Why do so many Americans believe in sea serpents?

#26  Postby Skinny Puppy » Aug 17, 2013 1:52 pm

If they don’t exist then how do you account for this? :ask:
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I think we all need to begin to accept evidence rather than simply dismissing sea creatures as nonsense.
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Re: Why do so many Americans believe in sea serpents?

#27  Postby Zwaarddijk » Aug 17, 2013 7:46 pm

MarkgaB5 wrote:yes this is a serious discussion because nearly all the sea serpent sightings and stories seem to come from the US or Canada..excluding Scotland

Is this possibly because all the sea serpent sightings you hear of are from there, simply because your media doesn't care for similar sightings elsewhere?

I've heard of such sightings from Iceland, Sweden, Norway, Russia, China, Japan, several African countries and Turkey.

The majority of sightings that I've heard of have happened in Sweden, which might be because during about 20 years most news I listened to or watched were from Sweden. Most of the others- the exceptions being a few sightings at Loch Ness and some Icelandic, Norwegian and Russian sightings - I've heard of through the internet, suggesting that Swedish media doesn't much care about sightings outside of Scandinavia. Why would you media be dissimilar from that?
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Re: Why do so many Americans believe in sea serpents?

#28  Postby Briton » Aug 17, 2013 7:58 pm

There's also Morgwar who lives in Falmouth Bay, Cornwall.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morgawr_(cryptid)
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Re: Why do so many Americans believe in sea serpents?

#29  Postby theropod » Aug 17, 2013 8:14 pm

Many years ago;
A friend of mine and I were sitting on the bank of the Arkansas river, late at night, fishing for catfish, when we saw something angling across the river's surface. We talked about it being a beaver, as only the head was visible, and it seemed to have that sort of size and steadiness that suggested beaver, maybe. We became quite interested when this thing altered its course and started coming towards us from about mid river. No increase in speed, just started coming our way, sortta. There was just enough moonlight to make out the wake trailing off this thing, and a black wedge we assumed to be a head. The Arkansas river, in central Arkansas, is rather wide and channeled with low current during the summer, and the surface can become very smooth in the still of night. This thing got to within 30 feet of the bank, and by this time my buddy had his 22 pistol out and I had my flashlight at the ready. Just as I switched on the lamp there was an awful thrashing of the water and my buddy couldn't find a target for the frothing. We summarized that an alligator had sensed our stinking catfish bait, came over to check it out, saw/heard us moving about and dived in reaction to a perceived threat with a flourish. I could see how some folks might think they'd just see a monster. Thinking about it, maybe we did, but it was still a know extant critter.

BTW there is a season on 'gators here in Arkie land, now. At that time if my bud had popped a gator there would have been serious repercussions from the game n fish department (had they found out). I'm not so sure anything aside from a perfectly placed shot would be lethal anyway, as his pop gun was for snakes and such.

All I know is there ARE monsters in our American waters, at least in parts of Arkansas! Sea serpents? I've seen discovery channel stuff about south pacific sea snakes, does that count?

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Re: Why do so many Americans believe in sea serpents?

#30  Postby Fallible » Aug 17, 2013 10:39 pm

SafeAsMilk wrote:
MarkgaB5 wrote:
Shagz wrote:I saw a massive serpent, once. It resides not in a lake, but in my jeans.

Oh, sorry. Is this meant to be a serious discussion about how stupid Americans are?


not stupid per se..perhaps superstitions

Yes, a fairly hilarious assessment coming from someone who really, really, really wants to believe in SHC.

MarkgaB5 wrote:yes this is a serious discussion because nearly all the sea serpent sightings and stories seem to come from the US or Canada..excluding Scotland


He's right, y'know. Spotted a serpent myself once. Monster he was, spanning a fathom and dark as pitch. Yellow eyes burn through you like you was nothin'. I hear she (all sea serpents are she's, mind) ate one o'the Hickman's horses in one bite, bones were spit up on shore for the next few days. Found me a new waterin' hole, I tell you whut.


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Re: Why do so many Americans believe in sea serpents?

#31  Postby Fallible » Aug 17, 2013 10:43 pm

P.S. Did anyone say about this yet?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lambton_Worm

I dunno if Bart said about it, because I passed out from fashion shock immediately upon witnessing those waistcoats.
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Re: Why do so many Americans believe in sea serpents?

#32  Postby laklak » Aug 17, 2013 10:44 pm

I was once married to a she serpent, does that count?
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debunking sea serpents.

#33  Postby MarkgaB5 » Sep 09, 2013 6:25 pm

people claim to have witnessed seeing sea serpents many times over the centuries since people built ships and went out to sea. a sea serpent is a type of dragon that lives in the ocean and looks like any other described type of dragon - a scaly, bulky beast with horns on its head, two huge dorsal fins on its cheeks, and a huge mouth with long teeth and a large snout. its often drawn or described undulating up and down. it is not commonly regarded as a mythical creature but often its said to be a real creature ..even scientists take the idea of actual living dragons in the sea seriously :roll: http://www.livescience.com/15132-alaska ... caddy.html

you know, because being unexplored justifies the existence of ice breathing , ship-devouring colossal dragons ! :doh:
very few websites have both the term ''sea serpent'' and ''mythical'' . some people even claim to have been attacked by sea dragons . i dont believe in them and find the fact that theyre taken seriously stupid. the umibozu is a giant mythical spirit in japanese mythology that roams the ocean and attacks ships but thats not taken seriously but sea dragons are. i dont mean simply long necked seals or other hypothetical mammal sometimes said to be a ''sea serpent'' but an actual dragon .

what is the best evidence /against/ their existence?
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Re: debunking sea serpents.

#34  Postby MarkgaB5 » Sep 09, 2013 8:02 pm

anyone?
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Re: debunking sea serpents.

#35  Postby CdesignProponentsist » Sep 09, 2013 8:06 pm

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Re: debunking sea serpents.

#36  Postby BlackBart » Sep 09, 2013 8:25 pm

Never seen any robust evidence for them. Don't need evidence against them. :coffee:
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Re: debunking sea serpents.

#37  Postby MarkgaB5 » Sep 09, 2013 8:25 pm

sea serpents certainly exist, but sea serpents are mythical, depending on what you mean by 'sea serpent'. cryptozoologists refer to sea serpents as serpetine dragons. they claim that theres been 1200 sightings of them. nice pic
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Re: debunking sea serpents.

#38  Postby Mazille » Sep 09, 2013 8:28 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oarfish
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Re: debunking sea serpents.

#39  Postby chairman bill » Sep 09, 2013 9:08 pm

I was sea kayaking some years ago, and off to one side, a pod of dolphins began breaching as they swam alongside (about 100 metres away). As individual dolphins breached, they formed what appeared to be a succession of classic sea serpent 'hoops'. The pod looked like one single animal, with its back arching along it's length, in that classic sea serpent form

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After that, I'd imagine the story simply grew, as some stories do in the telling
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Re: debunking sea serpents.

#40  Postby Varangian » Sep 09, 2013 10:48 pm

MarkgaB5 wrote:what is the best evidence /against/ their existence?


The rampant lack of sea serpents, perhaps?
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