truelgbt wrote:...kill a baby...

truelgbt wrote:
Also, many women who are protesting the Roe Overturn are post-menopausal so can no longer get pregnant.

truelgbt wrote:
many women who are protesting the Roe Overturn are post-menopausal so can no longer get pregnant.

truelgbt wrote:

mindhack wrote:... being able to gloat over the misery of others....

What "misery" are you referring to?

You do realize that 98% of the time, getting pregnant is within ones' control.

USA Today Quote: "Just 1% of women obtain an abortion because they became pregnant through rape, and less than 0.5% do so because of incest, according to the Guttmacher Institute."

Wikipedia: "The Guttmacher Institute is a PRO-CHOICE research organization started in 1968 that works to study, educate, and advance sexual and reproductive health..."

After the recent overturn of Roe v. Wade, each State can decide to allow abortions for cases of incest and rape.

In many cases of rape and incest, it is not the would-be mother who wants the abortion but the rapist who COERCES her to get an abortion, so HE can cover HIS crimes. Are atheists in favor of this? Hope not.

Also, many women who are protesting the Roe Overturn are post-menopausal so can no longer get pregnant.

So, the REAL REASON for the protest against the Overturn of Roe by most is:
1) The desire to live as they please and kill a baby, if necessary, to preserve that 'right'.
2) Declaring a unborn baby as possessing the dignity to deserve protections under the law, in essence, implies a god who gives dignity to that baby.

Unfortunately, NOBODY is willing to admit the above.

“Darwinism undermines both the idea that man is made in the image of God and the idea that man is a uniquely rational being. Furthermore, if Darwinism is correct, it is unlikely that any other support for the idea of human dignity will be found.” (ref: James Rachels, Created from Animals, 1990).

Atheism treats humans like nothing more than molecules: “Human life is sacred only if there is a God to sanctify it. Otherwise man is just another collection of atoms and can be treated as such.” (ref: Robert R. Reilly, Atheism and Arms Control, Intercollegiate Review, Fall 1988).

truelgbt wrote:

mindhack wrote:... being able to gloat over the misery of others....

What "misery" are you referring to?

You do realize that 98% of the time, getting pregnant is within ones' control.

USA Today Quote: "Just 1% of women obtain an abortion because they became pregnant through rape, and less than 0.5% do so because of incest, according to the Guttmacher Institute."

Wikipedia: "The Guttmacher Institute is a PRO-CHOICE research organization started in 1968 that works to study, educate, and advance sexual and reproductive health..."

After the recent overturn of Roe v. Wade, each State can decide to allow abortions for cases of incest and rape.

In many cases of rape and incest, it is not the would-be mother who wants the abortion but the rapist who COERCES her to get an abortion, so HE can cover HIS crimes. Are atheists in favor of this? Hope not.

Also, many women who are protesting the Roe Overturn are post-menopausal so can no longer get pregnant.

So, the REAL REASON for the protest against the Overturn of Roe by most is:
1) The desire to live as they please and kill a baby, if necessary, to preserve that 'right'.
2) Declaring a unborn baby as possessing the dignity to deserve protections under the law, in essence, implies a god who gives dignity to that baby.

Unfortunately, NOBODY is willing to admit the above.

“Darwinism undermines both the idea that man is made in the image of God and the idea that man is a uniquely rational being. Furthermore, if Darwinism is correct, it is unlikely that any other support for the idea of human dignity will be found.” (ref: James Rachels, Created from Animals, 1990).

Atheism treats humans like nothing more than molecules: “Human life is sacred only if there is a God to sanctify it. Otherwise man is just another collection of atoms and can be treated as such.” (ref: Robert R. Reilly, Atheism and Arms Control, Intercollegiate Review, Fall 1988).

truelgbt wrote:USA Today Quote: "Just 1% of women obtain an abortion because they became pregnant through rape, and less than 0.5% do so because of incest, according to the Guttmacher Institute."

"Just 1,686,300 women obtain an abortion because they became pregnant through rape, and less than 843,150 do so because of incest, according to the Guttmacher Institute."

THWOTH wrote:

truelgbt wrote:USA Today Quote: "Just 1% of women obtain an abortion because they became pregnant through rape, and less than 0.5% do so because of incest, according to the Guttmacher Institute."

1% sure sounds like a tiny, trivial number eh?

51.1% of the US's c.330 million population are women according to the most recent census, so, if we take the claim above at face value, it should rightly read something like...

"Just 1,686,300 women obtain an abortion because they became pregnant through rape, and less than 843,150 do so because of incest, according to the Guttmacher Institute."

Thommo wrote:

THWOTH wrote:

truelgbt wrote:USA Today Quote: "Just 1% of women obtain an abortion because they became pregnant through rape, and less than 0.5% do so because of incest, according to the Guttmacher Institute."

1% sure sounds like a tiny, trivial number eh?

51.1% of the US's c.330 million population are women according to the most recent census, so, if we take the claim above at face value, it should rightly read something like...

"Just 1,686,300 women obtain an abortion because they became pregnant through rape, and less than 843,150 do so because of incest, according to the Guttmacher Institute."

You can find the actual data on p4 of this pdf:
https://www.guttmacher.org/sites/defaul ... 711005.pdf

It shows the estimated percentage of woman having abortions who cited various factors as a reason for their decision in 1987 and 2004, based on samples of 1,900 and 1,160 respectively. That means the actual numbers within the samples are approximately 19 and 9 in 1987 and 12 and 6 in 2004.

One might reasonably extrapolate from that sample to infer it's about 9,300 women in the USA having abortions for reason of rape per year and less than 4,650 having abortions for reason of incest per year, based on reported annual abortion rates.

Evolving wrote:Except you. Obviously.

THWOTH wrote:I'm sure truelgbt appreciates you doing their homework for them.

So, the REAL REASON for the protest against the Overturn of Roe by most is:
1) The desire to live as they please and kill a baby, if necessary, to preserve that 'right'.
2) Declaring a unborn baby as possessing the dignity to deserve protections under the law, in essence, implies a god who gives dignity to that baby.

Unfortunately, NOBODY is willing to admit the above.