Will the Trump Prophecies bring legitimacy to Christianity?

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Re: Will the Trump Prophecies bring legitimacy to Christianity?

#801  Postby Evolving » Jun 26, 2022 12:05 pm

truelgbt wrote:...kill a baby...

It's a bodily fluid.

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Also, many women who are protesting the Roe Overturn are post-menopausal so can no longer get pregnant.

So one can only express a view on this matter if one is personally affected?

Bye then, Trev.
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Re: Will the Trump Prophecies bring legitimacy to Christianity?

#802  Postby Hermit » Jun 26, 2022 1:19 pm

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many women who are protesting the Roe Overturn are post-menopausal so can no longer get pregnant.

None of the men who support the Roe Overturn ever could.
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Re: Will the Trump Prophecies bring legitimacy to Christianity?

#803  Postby mindhack » Jun 27, 2022 11:14 am

truelgbt wrote:
mindhack wrote:... being able to gloat over the misery of others....


What "misery" are you referring to?

You do realize that 98% of the time, getting pregnant is within ones' control.

USA Today Quote: "Just 1% of women obtain an abortion because they became pregnant through rape, and less than 0.5% do so because of incest, according to the Guttmacher Institute."

Wikipedia: "The Guttmacher Institute is a PRO-CHOICE research organization started in 1968 that works to study, educate, and advance sexual and reproductive health..."

After the recent overturn of Roe v. Wade, each State can decide to allow abortions for cases of incest and rape.

In many cases of rape and incest, it is not the would-be mother who wants the abortion but the rapist who COERCES her to get an abortion, so HE can cover HIS crimes. Are atheists in favor of this? Hope not.

Also, many women who are protesting the Roe Overturn are post-menopausal so can no longer get pregnant.

So, the REAL REASON for the protest against the Overturn of Roe by most is:
1) The desire to live as they please and kill a baby, if necessary, to preserve that 'right'.
2) Declaring a unborn baby as possessing the dignity to deserve protections under the law, in essence, implies a god who gives dignity to that baby.

Unfortunately, NOBODY is willing to admit the above.

“Darwinism undermines both the idea that man is made in the image of God and the idea that man is a uniquely rational being. Furthermore, if Darwinism is correct, it is unlikely that any other support for the idea of human dignity will be found.” (ref: James Rachels, Created from Animals, 1990).

Atheism treats humans like nothing more than molecules: “Human life is sacred only if there is a God to sanctify it. Otherwise man is just another collection of atoms and can be treated as such.” (ref: Robert R. Reilly, Atheism and Arms Control, Intercollegiate Review, Fall 1988).


Yes theocrat, being able to gloat over the misery of others. Like you expressed here in this very thread, in your sense of righteous bigotry. Don’t you remember, how you thought the overturn was hilarious?

Fucking authoritarians. Why do you people hate freedom so much?
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Re: Will the Trump Prophecies bring legitimacy to Christianity?

#804  Postby BWE » Jun 27, 2022 7:43 pm

This is a case of be careful what you wish for
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Re: Will the Trump Prophecies bring legitimacy to Christianity?

#805  Postby Blackadder » Jun 28, 2022 10:30 am

truelgbt wrote:
mindhack wrote:... being able to gloat over the misery of others....


What "misery" are you referring to?

You do realize that 98% of the time, getting pregnant is within ones' control.

USA Today Quote: "Just 1% of women obtain an abortion because they became pregnant through rape, and less than 0.5% do so because of incest, according to the Guttmacher Institute."

Wikipedia: "The Guttmacher Institute is a PRO-CHOICE research organization started in 1968 that works to study, educate, and advance sexual and reproductive health..."

After the recent overturn of Roe v. Wade, each State can decide to allow abortions for cases of incest and rape.

In many cases of rape and incest, it is not the would-be mother who wants the abortion but the rapist who COERCES her to get an abortion, so HE can cover HIS crimes. Are atheists in favor of this? Hope not.

Also, many women who are protesting the Roe Overturn are post-menopausal so can no longer get pregnant.

So, the REAL REASON for the protest against the Overturn of Roe by most is:
1) The desire to live as they please and kill a baby, if necessary, to preserve that 'right'.
2) Declaring a unborn baby as possessing the dignity to deserve protections under the law, in essence, implies a god who gives dignity to that baby.

Unfortunately, NOBODY is willing to admit the above.

“Darwinism undermines both the idea that man is made in the image of God and the idea that man is a uniquely rational being. Furthermore, if Darwinism is correct, it is unlikely that any other support for the idea of human dignity will be found.” (ref: James Rachels, Created from Animals, 1990).

Atheism treats humans like nothing more than molecules: “Human life is sacred only if there is a God to sanctify it. Otherwise man is just another collection of atoms and can be treated as such.” (ref: Robert R. Reilly, Atheism and Arms Control, Intercollegiate Review, Fall 1988).


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Re: Will the Trump Prophecies bring legitimacy to Christianity?

#806  Postby THWOTH » Jun 28, 2022 5:30 pm

truelgbt wrote:USA Today Quote: "Just 1% of women obtain an abortion because they became pregnant through rape, and less than 0.5% do so because of incest, according to the Guttmacher Institute."

1% sure sounds like a tiny, trivial number eh?

51.1% of the US's c.330 million population are women according to the most recent census, so, if we take the claim above at face value, it should rightly read something like...

    "Just 1,686,300 women obtain an abortion because they became pregnant through rape, and less than 843,150 do so because of incest, according to the Guttmacher Institute."
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Re: Will the Trump Prophecies bring legitimacy to Christianity?

#807  Postby BlackBart » Jun 28, 2022 6:07 pm

But God loves us. Apparently.
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Re: Will the Trump Prophecies bring legitimacy to Christianity?

#808  Postby Evolving » Jun 28, 2022 6:49 pm

Except you. Obviously.
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Re: Will the Trump Prophecies bring legitimacy to Christianity?

#809  Postby THWOTH » Jun 28, 2022 7:12 pm

Jesus put that baby in your belly!
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Re: Will the Trump Prophecies bring legitimacy to Christianity?

#810  Postby Thommo » Jun 28, 2022 10:13 pm

THWOTH wrote:
truelgbt wrote:USA Today Quote: "Just 1% of women obtain an abortion because they became pregnant through rape, and less than 0.5% do so because of incest, according to the Guttmacher Institute."

1% sure sounds like a tiny, trivial number eh?

51.1% of the US's c.330 million population are women according to the most recent census, so, if we take the claim above at face value, it should rightly read something like...

    "Just 1,686,300 women obtain an abortion because they became pregnant through rape, and less than 843,150 do so because of incest, according to the Guttmacher Institute."


You can find the actual data on p4 of this pdf:
https://www.guttmacher.org/sites/defaul ... 711005.pdf

It shows the estimated percentage of woman having abortions who cited various factors as a reason for their decision in 1987 and 2004, based on samples of 1,900 and 1,160 respectively. That means the actual numbers within the samples are approximately 19 and 9 in 1987 and 12 and 6 in 2004.

One might reasonably extrapolate from that sample to infer it's about 9,300 women in the USA having abortions for reason of rape per year and less than 4,650 having abortions for reason of incest per year, based on reported annual abortion rates.
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Re: Will the Trump Prophecies bring legitimacy to Christianity?

#811  Postby The_Metatron » Jun 29, 2022 3:42 am

Cities full.

Unacceptable.
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Re: Will the Trump Prophecies bring legitimacy to Christianity?

#812  Postby felltoearth » Jun 29, 2022 10:05 am

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Re: Will the Trump Prophecies bring legitimacy to Christianity?

#813  Postby The_Piper » Jun 29, 2022 11:23 am

:lol: :lol: Their little red caps, that were made in China. Like Melania's...oh never mind. :shifty:
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Re: Will the Trump Prophecies bring legitimacy to Christianity?

#814  Postby THWOTH » Jun 29, 2022 1:42 pm

Thommo wrote:
THWOTH wrote:
truelgbt wrote:USA Today Quote: "Just 1% of women obtain an abortion because they became pregnant through rape, and less than 0.5% do so because of incest, according to the Guttmacher Institute."

1% sure sounds like a tiny, trivial number eh?

51.1% of the US's c.330 million population are women according to the most recent census, so, if we take the claim above at face value, it should rightly read something like...

    "Just 1,686,300 women obtain an abortion because they became pregnant through rape, and less than 843,150 do so because of incest, according to the Guttmacher Institute."


You can find the actual data on p4 of this pdf:
https://www.guttmacher.org/sites/defaul ... 711005.pdf

It shows the estimated percentage of woman having abortions who cited various factors as a reason for their decision in 1987 and 2004, based on samples of 1,900 and 1,160 respectively. That means the actual numbers within the samples are approximately 19 and 9 in 1987 and 12 and 6 in 2004.

One might reasonably extrapolate from that sample to infer it's about 9,300 women in the USA having abortions for reason of rape per year and less than 4,650 having abortions for reason of incest per year, based on reported annual abortion rates.

I'm sure truelgbt appreciates you doing their homework for them. ;)
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Re: Will the Trump Prophecies bring legitimacy to Christianity?

#815  Postby BlackBart » Jun 29, 2022 3:50 pm

Evolving wrote:Except you. Obviously.

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Re: Will the Trump Prophecies bring legitimacy to Christianity?

#816  Postby Thommo » Jun 29, 2022 6:10 pm

THWOTH wrote:I'm sure truelgbt appreciates you doing their homework for them. ;)


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Re: Will the Trump Prophecies bring legitimacy to Christianity?

#817  Postby Spearthrower » Jun 30, 2022 3:01 pm

For me, this is the kind of thread I think a moderator should monitor closely. It's clear that Trev only pops by to unload a bunch of ignorant bigotry at people he perceives as his ideological enemies, and therefore evil people, and totally unsurprisingly, people don't really like being the repeated target of moronic bigotry. There's only so much patience that can be reasonably expected before calling a spade a twat.
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Re: Will the Trump Prophecies bring legitimacy to Christianity?

#818  Postby Spearthrower » Jun 30, 2022 3:04 pm

So, the REAL REASON for the protest against the Overturn of Roe by most is:
1) The desire to live as they please and kill a baby, if necessary, to preserve that 'right'.
2) Declaring a unborn baby as possessing the dignity to deserve protections under the law, in essence, implies a god who gives dignity to that baby.

Unfortunately, NOBODY is willing to admit the above.



I don't just not admit it - I reject it as the gloopy offal you located in your navel and presented as if it belonged to someone else.

It's entirely the product of your own unthinking prejudice - you and people like you are being treated as useful idiots by vested interests, they are generating in you an irrational hatred and a target to hate. I am not a believer in Christianity, but even I know that none of this has anything to do with what Jesus said - quite the contrary in fact. You're exploiting your religious belief to be hateful to others and blinding yourself in the process.
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