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Re: Advice for Believers

#161  Postby The_Metatron » Feb 07, 2017 12:19 am

Dark energy wrote:I have to admit that it is difficult for me to debate with the likes of CALI because he looks more acknowledgeable than me in these matters.we are on different wavelenghts.
i am after just a wanna-be scientist,theist who just ended up in this forum accidentally .

Yeah. He does that.
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Re: Advice for Believers

#162  Postby Fallible » Feb 07, 2017 8:48 am

Dark energy wrote:I have to admit that it is difficult for me to debate with the likes of CALI because he looks more acknowledgeable than me in these matters.we are on different wavelenghts.
i am after just a wanna-be scientist,theist who just ended up in this forum accidentally .



:scratch: Why? Are you out for low hanging fruit or something? Bad luck.
Sorry that you think you had it rough in the first world.
You ought to get out a map sooner than later.
Knowledge has turned into a trap; you have to slow down.
Get out of your head and spend less time alone.
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Re: Advice for Believers

#163  Postby Sendraks » Feb 07, 2017 10:16 am

Scot Dutchy wrote:
This of course is the really stupid idea. Why a small rock orbiting a third rate star is the centre of the universe? They did not know what space was.


:this:

Can any theist of any stripe honestly say that their preferred holy book would have been drafted in the way it is, if it were written today with what we know now about the earth's place in the universe?
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#164  Postby BlackBart » Feb 07, 2017 10:31 am

:what: What's third rate about it?
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#165  Postby Scot Dutchy » Feb 07, 2017 10:37 am

I am quite sure they cant. It is amazing that their all knowing god/allah/stone or whatever did not explain it to them.

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In astrological terms I think it is.
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#166  Postby BlackBart » Feb 07, 2017 10:43 am

You mean astronomical terms? In astronomical terms, it's unremarkable.
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#167  Postby Blackadder » Feb 07, 2017 10:45 am

I quite like our star.
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Re: Advice for Believers

#168  Postby BlackBart » Feb 07, 2017 10:46 am

Me too. I'd be jolly upset if something happened to it.
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Re: Advice for Believers

#169  Postby Fallible » Feb 07, 2017 10:56 am

Meh.
Sorry that you think you had it rough in the first world.
You ought to get out a map sooner than later.
Knowledge has turned into a trap; you have to slow down.
Get out of your head and spend less time alone.
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Re: Advice for Believers

#170  Postby BlackBart » Feb 07, 2017 11:01 am

Sunist. :nono:
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#171  Postby Fallible » Feb 07, 2017 11:20 am

What's so amazing about collections of superheated gas? I have a never ending supply.
Sorry that you think you had it rough in the first world.
You ought to get out a map sooner than later.
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Re: Advice for Believers

#172  Postby Scot Dutchy » Feb 07, 2017 11:37 am

BlackBart wrote:You mean astronomical terms? In astronomical terms, it's unremarkable.


Of course I meant that. :oops:
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#173  Postby Scot Dutchy » Feb 07, 2017 11:39 am

Just dont see enough of it. I am doing light therapy just now and taking vitamin D to compensate.
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Re: Advice for Believers

#174  Postby Blackadder » Feb 07, 2017 11:49 am

Fallible wrote:What's so amazing about collections of superheated gas? I have a never ending supply.


Are you saying the sun shines out of your Aristotle? :shock:
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Re: Advice for Believers

#175  Postby BlackBart » Feb 07, 2017 12:08 pm

Fallible wrote:What's so amazing about collections of superheated gas? I have a never ending supply.

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Re: Advice for Believers

#176  Postby Rachel Bronwyn » Feb 07, 2017 1:06 pm

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Rachel Bronwyn wrote:Was it a big exciting thing? I don't remember it happening. Going to look. Hopefully it's worth a few lols.

It was the usual with booting trolls here - those who were engaged with him regularly had plenty of evidence of this trolling, then there was a long Feedback thread featuring someone who never engaged with him stating that he doesn't see what the problem is, and doesn't think we should ban trolls. We went round and round for a while before the Mods finally had time to kick the ball around some more, look at his historical record, and decide that there was no changing his behaviors through the usual sanction process and that he had to go.

Then he was spotted in dank corners of the Interwebs bragging about how he'd been kicked off of here, and how stupid we all were, and how he considered getting booted from here another notch on his gun or something.


Man, he's so fucking cool.
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Re: Advice for Believers

#177  Postby tuco » Feb 07, 2017 2:17 pm

Its like .. repeatedly biting unfamiliar chewtoys, then complaining it has jalapenos inside and then asking authorities to put said chewtoy on black list because jalapenos are hot.

Or .. oh look, this appears to be chewoytoy with jalapenos inside, better leave it alone.

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#178  Postby Sendraks » Feb 07, 2017 2:26 pm

I like jalapenos.
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Re: Advice for Believers

#179  Postby Fallible » Feb 07, 2017 2:29 pm

Let me just check to see if I'm still sticking to my New Years resolution...




Yep.
Sorry that you think you had it rough in the first world.
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Get out of your head and spend less time alone.
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Re: Advice for Believers

#180  Postby solazy » Feb 07, 2017 4:02 pm

Actually, 2 trillion galaxies is not that many for an all powerful God. It could still be work in progress. Maybe He does it for a hobby.
Maybe the universe is infinite with an infinite number of planets, stars, black holes, galaxies and even other universes all buzzing around in their private gravitational field. We just don't know yet.
The most perplexing question becomes what would be chances of a creator if infinity does exist. The creator would also be infinite and would not need to be independently created.
Our universe was quite possibly born from the womb of a black hole in another universe.
I don't subscribe to any conventional religion and religion cannot answer this, but if the constants of our universe were only very slightly different our presence would not be around. There would be NOTHING. Are we the only ones to observe the existence of the universe?
We have a good idea HOW it exists (Inflation Theory) but we can't answer WHY?
The biggest questions still require answers which may never be answered.
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