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Balrogs don't have wings
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Re: Balrogs don't have wings
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by campermon » Dec 22, 2013 9:11 pm
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Re: Balrogs don't have wings
#3 by BlackBart » Dec 22, 2013 9:17 pm
Destiny Balrog was always my fav... wait...what? 
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Re: Balrogs don't have wings
#4 by Weaver » Dec 22, 2013 9:30 pm
Good stuff!
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Re: Balrogs don't have wings
#5 by Animavore » Dec 22, 2013 9:32 pm
Weaver wrote:Both the Silmarillion and The Two Towers clearly describe balrog wings.
There is more evidentiary support for balrogs with wings than there is for angles with wings - more than there is for angles, in fact, since we know who the author was.
There's loads of evidential support for angles
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Re: Balrogs don't have wings
#6 by Animavore » Dec 22, 2013 9:34 pm
Lol! In before the edit.
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Re: Balrogs don't have wings
#7 by Weaver » Dec 22, 2013 9:51 pm
Sorry about that - thought a bit, and referenced my desk-side copy of LOTR, then realized I might be wrong. Didn't even catch the spelling error.
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Re: Balrogs don't have wings
#8 by Animavore » Dec 22, 2013 9:53 pm
I wish I had the tact to edit most of the rubbish I'm after typing out after submitting it 
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Re: Balrogs don't have wings
#9 by Macdoc » Dec 22, 2013 9:56 pm
Tis a contingent being... 
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Re: Balrogs don't have wings
#10 by scott1328 » Dec 22, 2013 10:02 pm
Macdoc wrote:Tis a contingent being...
au contraries, Balrogs are necessary beings. Without them the fellowship of the rings would have been wholly unwatchable. As proved in the two towers, when the balrog's encore performance staved off sleep for a whole hour.
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Re: Balrogs don't have wings
#11 by Macdoc » Dec 22, 2013 10:31 pm
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Re: Balrogs don't have wings
#12 by Ironclad » Dec 23, 2013 8:30 pm
For Van Youngman - see you amongst the stardust, old buddy
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Re: Balrogs don't have wings
#13 by jaydot » Jan 02, 2014 6:56 am
i've forgotten what balrogs are. this is probably because, unlike the enjoyable and reasonably short tale of the hobbit, the lord of the rings is a great long yawn.
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Re: Balrogs don't have wings
#14 by zulumoose » Jan 02, 2014 7:03 am
enjoyable and reasonably short tale of the hobbit
Which they have decided to make into THREE epic films, just like LOTR, which is probably 3 times as long in print.
It's like they have mistaken the words trilogy and trinity, and then it becomes an article of faith.
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Re: Balrogs don't have wings
#15 by Darwinsbulldog » Jan 02, 2014 7:12 am
The proper title is "Bored With The RIngs" in any case.
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Re: Balrogs don't have wings
#16 by scott1328 » Jan 02, 2014 2:14 pm
jaydot wrote:i've forgotten what balrogs are. this is probably because, unlike the enjoyable and reasonably short tale of the hobbit, the lord of the rings is a great long yawn.
From here
Balrogs were the Valaraucar (Quenya; vala "power" + rauco "monster"), spirits of the Maiar that were seduced and corrupted by Melkor to his service. There were never more than seven, according to Tolkien's son, but in earlier versions of Tolkien's writings there are references to entire armies of Balrogs. Gothmog was their captain during the 1st Age.
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Re: Balrogs don't have wings
#17 by proudfootz » Jan 06, 2014 10:21 pm
Balrogs fly on occasion - I suppose they fly like Superman.
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Re: Balrogs don't have wings
#18 by chairman bill » Jan 06, 2014 11:05 pm
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Re: Balrogs don't have wings
#19 by scott1328 » Jan 06, 2014 11:08 pm
A free PDF download of the original Bored of the Rings is available here
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Re: Balrogs don't have wings
#20 by Onyx8 » Jan 07, 2014 2:22 am
iIs that the one with Dildo Bagfart?
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