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#1  Postby lyingcheat » Jun 06, 2018 2:27 pm

The crocodilian version of taking the sacrament.
A baptism in Ethiopia has gone horribly wrong, with a crocodile attacking and killing the pastor during a waterside service.

Eighty people were gathered at Lake Abaya while Docho Eshetem, the Protestant clergyman, conducted a mass baptism in the shallow water.
"He baptised the first person and he passed on to another one," a local resident told the BBC.
"All of a sudden, a crocodile jumped out of the lake and grabbed the pastor."


Nature casually snatching a ranking henchman during a ceremony the christian god thing might be expected to want to encourage?
If, as it is sometimes witlessly alleged, 'the glorious awe inspiring beauty of nature' is evidence for the christian version of a god thing then incidents such as this are equally compelling evidence against.
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Re: Christianity Under Attack

#2  Postby Calilasseia » Jun 06, 2018 3:18 pm

What sort of idiot goes wading into a lake containing crocodiles, and encourages others to do likewise?

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Re: Christianity Under Attack

#3  Postby Blackadder » Jun 06, 2018 3:21 pm

God works in mysterious ways. The crocodile was sent to test the pastor’s faith. :grin:
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#4  Postby Arcanyn » Jun 06, 2018 3:29 pm

Sobek was punishing him for worshipping the wrong god.
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#5  Postby laklak » Jun 06, 2018 4:26 pm

He should have just sprayed it with Doom.
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#6  Postby scott1328 » Jun 06, 2018 5:29 pm

Won't someone please think of that poor crocodile and the massive indigestion it must have endured?
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#7  Postby Briton » Jun 06, 2018 6:33 pm

lyingcheat wrote:The crocodilian version of taking the sacrament.
A baptism in Ethiopia has gone horribly wrong, with a crocodile attacking and killing the pastor during a waterside service.

Eighty people were gathered at Lake Abaya while Docho Eshetem, the Protestant clergyman, conducted a mass baptism in the shallow water.
"He baptised the first person and he passed on to another one," a local resident told the BBC.
"All of a sudden, a crocodile jumped out of the lake and grabbed the pastor."


Nature casually snatching a ranking henchman during a ceremony the christian god thing might be expected to want to encourage?
If, as it is sometimes witlessly alleged, 'the glorious awe inspiring beauty of nature' is evidence for the christian version of a god thing then incidents such as this are equally compelling evidence against.


They can just explain it away as the work of Old Nick.
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Re: Christianity Under Attack

#8  Postby Hamster » Jun 06, 2018 10:30 pm

Blackadder wrote:God works in mysterious ways. The crocodile was sent to test the pastor’s faith. :grin:

Is it a test or is it just a particularly savage critique?
Either way god seems a hard marker; though I guess technically we don't know how the pastor scored.
Is being torn apart by one crocodile a pass?
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Re: Christianity Under Attack

#9  Postby Cito di Pense » Jun 07, 2018 10:31 am

If only it had been a crocoduck, I would now count myself among the believers. Wouldst thou yet deny the Lord thy God?
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Translation by Elbert Hubbard: Do not take life too seriously. You're not going to get out of it alive.
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#10  Postby Alan B » Jun 08, 2018 10:29 pm

Erm, I seem to remember a similar incident (I might even had posted it) on RDF, some years back. Are we sure this is recent news? The circumstances sound awfully familiar... :scratch:
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#11  Postby Matt_B » Jun 09, 2018 4:48 am

I'm not sure what the significance of the crocodile is, but if had been a couple of bears we'd be able to assume that he'd just been rude to a bald person. :grin:
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#12  Postby laklak » Jun 09, 2018 4:50 am

If I could send bears to eat them the little fuckers would stay off my goddamn lawn.
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#13  Postby z8000783 » Jun 09, 2018 12:28 pm

I've never heard of a crocodile eating pastor before. I wonder what religion it was.

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#14  Postby PensivePenny » Jun 09, 2018 12:31 pm

z8000783 wrote:I've never heard of a crocodile eating pastor before. I wonder what religion it was.

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The prehistoric reptile or the crocodile?
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Re: Christianity Under Attack

#15  Postby pelfdaddy » Jun 09, 2018 12:53 pm

Believers will find ways to make even this unaccountable circumstance fit nicely into their theology. Stranger still...Various believers will find various ways to make it fit their various theologies.

And there...perhaps...is one of the oddest features of theology; it's infinite flexibility--it's aptitude for adapting to any and all problems (whether through an application of arbitrarily conjured-up fundamental principles at one end of the spectrum, or the spitballing of ad hoc rationalizations at the other).

The reasoned and logical perspective identifies this as a weakness (that which explains everything explains nothing), while apologetics allow it to masquerade as a strength.
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Re: Christianity Under Attack

#16  Postby laklak » Jun 09, 2018 2:07 pm

That's also it's greatest strength.

As for crocodile eating pastors, they serve fried gator at church functions here. Close enough for government work.
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#17  Postby Skinny Puppy » Jun 09, 2018 4:19 pm

pelfdaddy wrote:Believers will find ways to make even this unaccountable circumstance fit nicely into their theology. Stranger still...Various believers will find various ways to make it fit their various theologies.

And there...perhaps...is one of the oddest features of theology; it's infinite flexibility--it's aptitude for adapting to any and all problems (whether through an application of arbitrarily conjured-up fundamental principles at one end of the spectrum, or the spitballing of ad hoc rationalizations at the other).

The reasoned and logical perspective identifies this as a weakness (that which explains everything explains nothing), while apologetics allow it to masquerade as a strength.


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From an ex-Pentecostal POV, we would have used this to explain it:

MATTHEW 5:45

Would you agree or disagree?
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#18  Postby pelfdaddy » Jun 09, 2018 5:14 pm

Hi Skinny,

Yea, that would be one way. Interestingly, as an ex-pentecostal as well, I had the entire Sermon on the Mount memorized. Ironically, the verse you cite was the only one I had to quote with any frequency. I think this was because so much random shit was always going wrong in life.

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