Doing God's Will - a solution to a fickle, no free will life

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Doing God's Will - a solution to a fickle, no free will life

#1  Postby Keep It Real » Mar 10, 2017 8:45 pm

First we need imagine what God wants us to do with our life. Avoiding the sins is key, as is loving thy neighbor, as I see things. My lack of free-will has lead to substance abuse, laziness, selfishness and a host of other unethical behaviors. Many people don't lead good lives as they only listen to what they want; from moment to moment, and human desires are often unethical and damaging. It is worth turning over our will's to god; but remember this above all else - God is good! So only do the things god has revealed to you as being ethically robust. I do not think that god interferes or can interfere in the physical world or nature. God acts through guiding us poor, weak humans. God to me is moral truth, as we perceive it. So I'm going to follow that true path and no longer allow satan (unethical desires) to run my life. This philosophy is completely accessible to atheists, although I wouldn't recommend they keep thinking of themselves as atheists - the Christian identity provides a framework and structure which brings god to life in the mind and to call oneself an atheist would weaken god's influence in our lives. Peaceout.
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#2  Postby tuco » Mar 10, 2017 8:54 pm

Let me guess, you've been to church, how was it .. was buzzing .. and had a drink? btw You got it backwards, first drinking, then church.

On topic, when I try to follow God's guidance, her/his ethics are so robust that I get fucked over pretty much everywhere.
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#3  Postby laklak » Mar 10, 2017 8:56 pm

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#4  Postby Keep It Real » Mar 10, 2017 9:01 pm

tuco wrote:Let me guess, you've been to church, how was it .. was buzzing .. and had a drink? btw You got it backwards, first drinking, then church.

On topic, when I try to follow God's guidance, her/his ethics are so robust that I get fucked over pretty much everywhere.


I went to church on sunday and was indeed buzzing afterwards - so much so that I forgot myself and pathetically caved in and got drunk. Oh so weak is man alone. When did you follow god's guidance and get fucked over? Tell me a story.
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#5  Postby tuco » Mar 10, 2017 9:20 pm

Story of my life ;)

But seriously. From my experience, unless among like minded, peers either detach themselves from those following what you called robust ethics or straightforward abuse them. In other words, I do not think living by the Bible is pragmatic for most RL situations. IIRC correctly there was a thread on Living biblically for a year or something.

Story .. over here I say nothing against God commandments and how do I get treated?
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#6  Postby laklak » Mar 10, 2017 10:15 pm

Just don't become a "Youth Pastor", those guys always seem to end up in jail.
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#7  Postby tuco » Mar 10, 2017 10:29 pm

If there is in fact correlation, I'd be interested how it works.

There was a guy who broke in to poultry factories or animal skin farms, stealing animals from there, placing them to free range. Someone said something like .. his consciousness can only be envied by most. The point being that most people want to be good people but they fail to be and people who fail less remind them of their own failures.

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#8  Postby Arnold Layne » Mar 10, 2017 10:30 pm

Keep It Real wrote:First we need imagine what God wants us to do with our life. Avoiding the sins is key, as is loving thy neighbor, as I see things. My lack of free-will has lead to substance abuse, laziness, selfishness and a host of other unethical behaviors. Many people don't lead good lives as they only listen to what they want; from moment to moment, and human desires are often unethical and damaging. It is worth turning over our will's to god; but remember this above all else - God is good! So only do the things god has revealed to you as being ethically robust. I do not think that god interferes or can interfere in the physical world or nature. God acts through guiding us poor, weak humans. God to me is moral truth, as we perceive it. So I'm going to follow that true path and no longer allow satan (unethical desires) to run my life. This philosophy is completely accessible to atheists, although I wouldn't recommend they keep thinking of themselves as atheists - the Christian identity provides a framework and structure which brings god to life in the mind and to call oneself an atheist would weaken god's influence in our lives. Peaceout.

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#9  Postby Fallible » Mar 10, 2017 10:48 pm

Any reason this couldn't go in the other threa...oh you know what, forget it.
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#10  Postby chairman bill » Mar 10, 2017 10:50 pm

God wants me to dash babies heads against rocks. God can't be wrong, can he?
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#11  Postby laklak » Mar 10, 2017 11:02 pm

God is telling me to drink wine. Should I listen to him?
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#12  Postby TopCat » Mar 10, 2017 11:33 pm

If people stopped responding to this shit, it would go away.
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#13  Postby tuco » Mar 10, 2017 11:45 pm

Indeed, I've been signaling it for couple of years, in-line with the word of God, by now but people want to respond to this just like to chew toys and feed trolls. Apparently its good way to spend time and energy.
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#14  Postby SafeAsMilk » Mar 11, 2017 1:44 am

TopCat wrote:If people stopped responding to this shit, it would go away.

That'll probably happen around the same time people stop rubbernecking at highway accidents.
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#15  Postby Spinozasgalt » Mar 11, 2017 2:08 am

See, shit like this is why gay people are better than straight people.
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#16  Postby Arnold Layne » Mar 11, 2017 2:14 am

TopCat wrote:If people stopped responding to this shit, it would go away.

And if people stopped responding to people responding to this shit......oh, never mind.
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#17  Postby The_Piper » Mar 11, 2017 2:57 am

Holy Trolly.
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#18  Postby Keep It Real » Mar 11, 2017 6:46 am

chairman bill wrote:God wants me to dash babies heads against rocks. God can't be wrong, can he?


I don't think the bible is all true - in fact it's chocka block with untruths. It was written by men, and is fallible. I dismiss anything in it which is contrary to ethical living or rationality (ie. most of it).
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#19  Postby Keep It Real » Mar 11, 2017 6:58 am

Fallible wrote:Any reason this couldn't go in the other threa...oh you know what, forget it.


This thread has different subject matter to the others. My my, aren't we tetchy and judgmental, as usual.
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#20  Postby Keep It Real » Mar 11, 2017 6:59 am

laklak wrote:God is telling me to drink wine. Should I listen to him?


That's not god - it's the devil! :grin:
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