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Faith and Reason

#1  Postby The Doctor » Mar 04, 2010 10:49 pm

Can faith and reason coexist? Is faith rational?
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Re: Faith and Reason

#2  Postby Sween » Mar 05, 2010 4:37 am

I guess. No, wait. I should probably ask what you mean by faith first ("rational" can be tricky as well, what with philosophers throwing it all over the place, who knows what it means)
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Re: Faith and Reason

#3  Postby twistor59 » Mar 05, 2010 7:54 am

Traditionally, a thread such as this will start a big dingdong battle about what "faith" means. OK I'll start - it just means believing stuff without having evidence.
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Re: Faith and Reason

#4  Postby Sween » Mar 05, 2010 12:48 pm

twistor59 wrote:Traditionally, a thread such as this will start a big dingdong battle about what "faith" means. OK I'll start - it just means believing stuff without having evidence.


You are absolutely right (about such a thread starting a big definitions battle :lol: ), for faith is not "believing stuff without having evidence," but having trust in x; and whether one has trust in x is independent from whether one has reason to do so - some people do, some people don't.
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Re: Faith and Reason

#5  Postby twistor59 » Mar 05, 2010 1:00 pm

RichieDickins wrote:
twistor59 wrote:Traditionally, a thread such as this will start a big dingdong battle about what "faith" means. OK I'll start - it just means believing stuff without having evidence.


You are absolutely right (about such a thread starting a big definitions battle :lol: ), for faith is not "believing stuff without having evidence," but having trust in x; and whether one has trust in x is independent from whether one has reason to do so - some people do, some people don't.


But if I use your definition, I can't refer to someone disparagingly as a "faith-head", so that can't be right...
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Re: Faith and Reason

#6  Postby Sween » Mar 05, 2010 1:12 pm

twistor59 wrote:
RichieDickins wrote:
twistor59 wrote:Traditionally, a thread such as this will start a big dingdong battle about what "faith" means. OK I'll start - it just means believing stuff without having evidence.


You are absolutely right (about such a thread starting a big definitions battle :lol: ), for faith is not "believing stuff without having evidence," but having trust in x; and whether one has trust in x is independent from whether one has reason to do so - some people do, some people don't.


But if I use your definition, I can't refer to someone disparagingly as a "faith-head", so that can't be right...


Crap. I stand refuted :x
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Re: Faith and Reason

#7  Postby hackenslash » Mar 05, 2010 4:10 pm

In short, no. Faith is anathema to reason.
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