Someone finally put it up. Thanks for the heads-up, I'm going to be watching this soon.

Sweet!

Just watched the opening address by Hitch. Made perfect sense to me.

I used to believe that the monstrosities usually associated with Islam were more like results of the socio-economic and political factors of the region and any Islam just happened to be in the way of the storm, or something like that. Every religion is as good or as bad as the other. But recently, I'm starting to have doubts about that claim. When controlled for factors like economy, politics etc., I think, Islam does come out more violent than any other religion. Isn't it?

natselrox wrote:Just watched the opening address by Hitch. Made perfect sense to me.

I used to believe that the monstrosities usually associated with Islam were more like results of the socio-economic and political factors of the region and any Islam just happened to be in the way of the storm, or something like that. Every religion is as good or as bad as the other. But recently, I'm starting to have doubts about that claim. When controlled for factors like economy, politics etc., I think, Islam does come out more violent than any other religion. Isn't it?

Sam Harris makes the point that the christians living in the Middle East, who are living under the same dreadful circumstances, their economic status at the same low, aren't found blowing themselves up among innocent civilians. The doctrines of Islam make it intrinsically violent and immoral. Considerably worse than christianity. Just finished reading The End of Faith, I'm in the middle of Letter to a Christian Nation.

MattHunX wrote:

natselrox wrote:Just watched the opening address by Hitch. Made perfect sense to me.

I used to believe that the monstrosities usually associated with Islam were more like results of the socio-economic and political factors of the region and any Islam just happened to be in the way of the storm, or something like that. Every religion is as good or as bad as the other. But recently, I'm starting to have doubts about that claim. When controlled for factors like economy, politics etc., I think, Islam does come out more violent than any other religion. Isn't it?

Sam Harris makes the point that the christians living in the Middle East, who are living under the same dreadful circumstances, their economic status at the same low, aren't found blowing themselves up among innocent civilians. The doctrines of Islam make it intrinsically violent and immoral. Considerably worse than christianity. Just finished reading The End of Faith, I'm in the middle of Letter to a Christian Nation.

Yep. Islam and unfavourable economic situations make a deadly cocktail.

Will have to read the Sam Harris books!

I'm about halfway through. Hitchens is on the front foot and pretty impressive!

Animavore wrote:Tariq didn't do too bad but he shot himself in the foot a couple of times. I lolled.
He didn't annoy me as much as Roland Rat D'Souza, Screech Boteach or Kryton William Lane Craig. He seemed reasonable to an extent.

Admittedly (perhaps even far) less annoying than those who you've listed.

enjoy listening to this everyday a bit at a time while having my dinner(on my phone),unfortunately the vid from the op got taken down due to copyright claims so now i miss the bits in between recordings

I've seen Tariq speak before about immigration and whatnot, seemed rather sensible. I wonder how reasonable he seems here.