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tuco wrote:
...Humanists UK, a national charity working on behalf of non-religious people, said it was “meaningless” for the Church of England to remain the national legally established church, and to urge the Government to end the “ever-increasing” state funding for religion.
... chief executive Andrew Copson said: “How can it be right that 97 per cent of young people today are not Anglicans, but some 20 per cent of the state schools to which their children will go belong to the Church of England?
“More generally, how can the Church of England remain in any meaningful sense the national legally established church, when it caters for such a small portion of the population?”
How?
btw I was not aware its the national legally-established church. Grow up lol
Scot Dutchy wrote:
..just 3% of those aged 18-24 describing themselves as Anglican ..
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/ho ... 28896.html
... only 5% of that age group identify as Catholic.
Among the next age group, 25-34, only 5% identify as Anglicans and 9% say they are Catholic. The presence in the UK of young European workers may be a factor in the relatively high proportion of young Catholics.
Among all adults in Britain, only 15% consider themselves to be Anglican, compared with almost one in three at the turn of the century [2000?] ... 9% identify as Catholics, 17% as “other Christian”, and 6% say they belong to non-Christian religions.
More generally, 53% of all adults describe themselves as having no religious affiliation, up from 48% in 2015.
Many within the C of E have warned that its *resistance to same-sex marriage, and the difficulty of some churches in accepting LGBT Christians, have alienated almost an entire generation of young adults*. Some young people also view the C of E as failing to embrace and represent the diversity of 21st-century Britain.
C of E leaders are aware of the risk of atrophy, with a warning last year that numbers attending church were expected to continue to decline for the next three decades. They have embarked on an evangelism and reform programme
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/ ... are_btn_fb
Scot Dutchy wrote:So? It is probably higher.
Scot Dutchy wrote:Yep there is in England. Church of England is the official state church of England. That is why you see men in frocks at English memorial services. They get paid by the state.
The Church of Scotland Act 1921 is an Act of the British Parliament. The purpose of the Act was to settle centuries of dispute between the British Parliament and the Church of Scotland over the Church's independence in spiritual matters. The passing of the Act saw the British Parliament recognise the Church's independence in spiritual matters, by giving legal recognition to the Articles Declaratory [which lay out our structure, governance, and membership].
The Welsh Church Act 1914 provided for the separation of the four dioceses of the Church of England located in Wales (known collectively as 'the Church in Wales') from the rest of the Church, and for the simultaneous disestablishment of the Church. The Act came into operation in 1920.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_ ... ablishment
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'Church in Wales' (Eglwys yng Nghymru) is the largest denomination in Wales with 30% of the population identifying themselves as adherents. The Roman Catholic Church (Eglwys Gatholig Rufeinig) is the next largest denomination with 17.6% of the population as members. The next largest religious society is the Presbyterian Church of Wales (Eglwys Bresbyteraidd Cymru) with 34,819 (2004) members (slightly more than 1% of the population), followed by the Union of Welsh Independents (Undeb yr Annibynwyr Cymraeg) and the Baptist Union of Wales (Undeb Bedyddwyr Cymru) which each have about 1% of the population as members.
No religions was 32% and not stated was 7.6% in the 2011 census.
[Other religions are all < 1% of the population]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_ ... Statistics
Perhaps I'm somewhat conservative, and perhaps somewhat non-rational, but I'm not about throwing out ceremony and tradition just because we can't find a logical reason for it. I like the Queen, and I like the idea of constitutional monarchy. I also don't have a major problem with an established Church. I like random tradition, and I like the wacky idea that the British State (the Crown) is incarnate.tuco wrote:Usually, I know meaning of words from dictionary. Legally-established as in: recognized by the law. Growing up, in this sense, means: arrive to full maturity as in: vote it out ffs! Just like the Queen. wtf is wrong with people who keep monarch and religion? Hello?! This 21st century, you know. Established. I guess you like established, innit.
Part of the fun is that people find the tradition a bit eccentric.
By the blood of my sword, you should like Snoopy!BlackBart wrote:
I had that conversation when my brother took me to A&E when I was 16;
"Er, what religion are we?"
"Just put C of E"
I just leave it blank these days - they may as well have a box for favourite cartoon character for all the relevance it has these days.
... It'd be Spiderman BTW.
It'd take me forever to figure out worthwhile. Or maybe I'm just lazy and give up too easy. When people steal from me, my instinctive reaction is "they'll spend it better than I would."tuco wrote:What to say to people who find added value in spending money on something eccentric instead of something .. how was it .. worthwhile?
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