A Christian presuppositionalist presupposes God's existence and argues from that perspective to show the validity of Christian theism.2 This position also presupposes the truth of the Christian Scriptures and relies on the validity and power of the gospel to change lives (Rom. 1:16). From the scriptures, we see that the unbeliever is sinful in his mind (Rom. 1:18-32) and unable to understand spiritual things (1 Cor. 2:14). This means that no matter how convincing the evidence or good the logic, an unbeliever cannot come to the faith because his fallen nature will distort how he perceives the truth. The only thing that can ultimately change him is regeneration. To this end, the presuppositionalist seeks to change a person's presuppositions to be in conformity with biblical revelation.

I have found that a person's presuppositions are extremely important when discussing God and the validity of Christianity. I always ask diagnostic questions to find out where a person is philosophically and presuppositionally so I might better discuss Christianity. This is a very important point to focus on because one's presuppositions will govern how one interprets facts. Please consider the following dialogue as a realistic example of how this works.

Allen: I am an atheist and evolutionist. Prove to me there is a God.
Paul: I do not think I can do that, because of your presuppositions.
Allen: Why not?
Paul: Because your presuppositions will not allow you to examine without bias the evidence that I present to you for God's existence.
Allen: That is because there is no evidence for God's existence.
Paul: See? There you go. You just confirmed what I was stating.
Allen: How so?
Paul: Your presupposition is that there is no God; therefore, no matter what I might present to you to show His existence, you must interpret it in a manner consistent with your presupposition: namely, that there is no God. If I were to have a video tape of God coming down from heaven, you'd say it was a special effect. If I had a thousand eye-witnesses saying they saw Him, you'd say it was mass-hysteria. If I had Old Testament prophecies fulfilled in the New Testament, you'd say they were forged, dated incorrectly, or not real prophecies. So, I cannot prove anything to you since your presupposition won't allow it. It is limited.
Allen: It is not limited.
Paul: Yes it is. Your presupposition cannot allow you to rightly determine God's existence from evidence -- providing that there were factual proofs of His existence. Don't you see? If I DID have incontrovertible proof, your presupposition would force you to interpret the facts consistently with your presupposition and you would not be able to see the proof.
Allen: I see your point, but I am open to being persuaded, if you can.
Paul: Then, I must ask you, what kind of evidence would you accept that would prove God's existence? I must see what your presuppositions are and work either with them or against them.
Presuppositional apologetics differs from Classical apologetics "in that presuppositional apologetics rejects the validity of traditional proofs for the existence of God."3 A pure presuppositionalist tackles the worldview of a person and seeks to change the very foundation of how a person perceives facts.

Adherents to this position have been Cornelius Van Til, Abraham Kuyper, Greg Bahnsen, John Frame, etc.

Thomas Eshuis wrote:Another one about morality:


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tolman wrote:Sounds more like: 'Harry Potter: School Of Blatant Copyright Infringement'

savithru wrote:What could be more embarrassing to those who laugh at me and ignore me than their complete ignorance of the history of religion and the truth behind it. Esoteric knowledge indeed exists. What could be more embarrassing to all those rationally oriented and scientific minded people than the truth that a humble priest worshipping a deity has a far better understanding of the working of the cosmos than the scientists working at CERN. Scientists along with their scientific method in dark underground tunnels think that they know more about the universe than the person who created this universe.

tolman wrote:Are all your Christian friends bigots?

Atheists are as full of crap as the religions they mock. The fact is that no one can know the unknowable - at least not yet.

Ads like this are not atheistic at their core but satanic / luciferian. They get people to reject God and make them think that their 'logic' can be trusted. Man's thinking is corrupt and twisted and it has nothing to do with religion. The communist governments are proof that you don't need religion to be twisted and murderous. God says there is a way that seems right unto man but the ends thereof are the ways of death and that the reason for this is because man's heart is deceitful and desperately wicked. This is obvious just by looking at society.

What is Hell actually and does God send you there, lets talk about it and you will see that God does not send you there!
You choose to reject Him and yourself traveled there when you could have traveled to Heaven, John 3:16!

Atheism in it's self is ignorance. I'd rather be a philosopher than an Atheist anyday.

HAHAHAHA THIS VIDEO ADD ACTUALLY SUGGESTS ATHEISTS USE LOGIC. HOW CAN YOU BELIEVE PEOPLE FOR 5 THOUSANDS YEARS OF WRITTEN HISTORY WERE NOT USING LOGIC WHEN THEY EXPERIENCED DEITY?

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Atheists are as full of crap as the religions they mock. The fact is that no one can know the unknowable - at least not yet.

Ads like this are not atheistic at their core but satanic / luciferian. They get people to reject God and make them think that their 'logic' can be trusted. Man's thinking is corrupt and twisted and it has nothing to do with religion. The communist governments are proof that you don't need religion to be twisted and murderous. God says there is a way that seems right unto man but the ends thereof are the ways of death and that the reason for this is because man's heart is deceitful and desperately wicked. This is obvious just by looking at society.

What is Hell actually and does God send you there, lets talk about it and you will see that God does not send you there!
You choose to reject Him and yourself traveled there when you could have traveled to Heaven, John 3:16!

Atheism in it's self is ignorance. I'd rather be a philosopher than an Atheist anyday.

HAHAHAHA THIS VIDEO ADD ACTUALLY SUGGESTS ATHEISTS USE LOGIC. HOW CAN YOU BELIEVE PEOPLE FOR 5 THOUSANDS YEARS OF WRITTEN HISTORY WERE NOT USING LOGIC WHEN THEY EXPERIENCED DEITY?

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I developed a metaphor for this; Imagine there is a group of people who like to eat poop, they feel good doing it, it has no natural purpose, they just do it because they like it, and it's ok, because hey! Everyone has the right to eat whatever they want. People who don't eat poop should respect their taste... the problem comes when Poop Eaters start believing that eating poop is normal and it should be seen as something as normal as eating other things as pizze or crappy fast food.Then, it becomes a trend, because it starts being acceptable to eat poop because some famous artists do it, and because why not be open minded and try new things? People who dont eat poop still see poop eaters as weird guys, so poop eaters start making propaganda and demanding to be respected and stuff, we all know what happens next... this is just a very accurate metaphor and I dare anyone to debate its flaws.
The moral of the story (if still needed) is: Do whatever you want to do, but don't force your beliefs into a society just because you don't want to feel excluded.