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Re: What's the battiest thing you ever heard a believer say?

#41  Postby Moonwatcher » Apr 24, 2010 11:55 am

"If Christianity isn't true, then why do we measure our years in 'Before Christ' and after his birth?"

"If Christinaity isn't true, then why is it the religion of the most powerful nation on Earth?"

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Somebody else immediately answered that. "As ridiculous as that argument is, its because Christianity has traditionally been one of the most aggressive, intolerant and violent religions on the face of the Earth."
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Re: What's the battiest thing you ever heard a believer say?

#42  Postby hackenslash » Apr 24, 2010 4:14 pm

Tough call. The easiest thing to do would be to present the current state of this year's Dunsapy awards.

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Re: What's the battiest thing you ever heard a believer say?

#43  Postby Enoch » Apr 24, 2010 4:51 pm

This is heavily paraphrased, but I had a conversation that one went like this:

Me: "So what is the best evidence for your God?"
Fundie: "When you are a believer, you feel God in your heart, that feeling and faith is all that's needed."
Me: "And if someone had a "feeling" that there was NO god?"
Fundie: "Well that's the devil inside trying to convince you there is no God, and that is evidence for the devil."
Me: "Uh huh, what if somebody cannot believe until they have actual evidence?"
Fundie: "Again, that's the devil inside you."
Me: "What about believers of other religions?"
Fundie: "Devil."
Me: "Evidence for evolution..."
Fundie: "DEVIL!"

Me: "So what isn't "the devil"?"
Fundie: "Everything thats good comes from God, everything bad is the devil."


Now I can see how they scare children into believing.p
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Re: What's the battiest thing you ever heard a believer say?

#44  Postby blasphemer_number1 » Apr 24, 2010 5:42 pm

hackenslash wrote:Tough call. The easiest thing to do would be to present the current state of this year's Dunsapy awards. [...links removed...]Some prize batshit in there.


Thanks! Great stuff!
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Re: What's the battiest thing you ever heard a believer say?

#45  Postby Simon_Gardner » Apr 24, 2010 6:23 pm

virphen wrote:A woman I worked with in the UK once told me that the fact that the Celsius temperature scale has the freezing point of water at 0 and boiling point of water at 100 was far too much of a coincidence and that it was irrefutable proof there was a God.

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Re: What's the battiest thing you ever heard a believer say?

#46  Postby Mycernius » Apr 24, 2010 9:54 pm

I was once on a christian forum (now defunct) where two christians were arguing for and against the death penalty and using bible quotes to back up their arguements. I just mentioned that it just goes to show how inconsistant the bible is, and lo and behold I was just an ignorant atheist who didn't really understand god's word.
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Re: What's the battiest thing you ever heard a believer say?

#47  Postby Harmless Eccentric » Apr 24, 2010 10:11 pm

When I left my fundamentalist church, I took a summer and visited every other church in my town. A very interesting experience; I recommend it. At the Pentecostal church, I knew I was a stranger in a strange land when I saw the way the women stared at my short hair and my pants, but I wasn't prepared for a lengthy digression in the ad-libbed sermon against organ donation, on the grounds that, when we are all resurrected at the Rapture, all the donated organs will be returned to their original owners. The preacher painted a rather vivid word picture of hearts and kidneys and livers flying through the air on resurrection day.

That was the same preacher who, an hour and a half into the sermon, said, "I see some of you looking at your watches. Well, I'm not going to stop preaching until the Lord tells me I'm done."
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Re: What's the battiest thing you ever heard a believer say?

#48  Postby MattHunX » Apr 26, 2010 9:13 am

"The Grand Canyon could've formed in about 5 minutes" From VenomFangX, that's just one gem.
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Re: What's the battiest thing you ever heard a believer say?

#49  Postby King David » Apr 28, 2010 4:16 pm

"Science is flawed, but the word of God has no contradictions."- my ex-baptist minister grandfather.
"I don't believe in dinosaurs"- member of the baptist church my mother took me to as a child.
"EEE Shalalalalalalalala" -Crazy woman speaking in tongues at my grandpa's Assembly of God church.
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Re: What's the battiest thing you ever heard a believer say?

#50  Postby Tbickle » Apr 28, 2010 4:21 pm

I had someone tell me that he would kill his son if God asked him to. That pretty much ended our conversation.
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Re: What's the battiest thing you ever heard a believer say?

#51  Postby katja z » Apr 28, 2010 6:50 pm

Tbickle wrote:I had someone tell me that he would kill his son if God asked him to.

:what: This is a joke, right? :nono:
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Re: What's the battiest thing you ever heard a believer say?

#52  Postby HughMcB » Apr 28, 2010 7:32 pm

"God sees everything"
"Well did he watch me wank off last night?"
"No of course not"
"But I thought that God is omnipresent, he can't not be there at the time, maybe he had his eyes closed *sarcastically*"
"Don't be an ass, maybe he was there so"
"Good.... that just makes it kinkier"
"So we're just done with phrasing?"
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Re: What's the battiest thing you ever heard a believer say?

#53  Postby Tbickle » Apr 28, 2010 7:38 pm

katja z wrote:
Tbickle wrote:I had someone tell me that he would kill his son if God asked him to.

:what: This is a joke, right? :nono:


Nope. He was a guy handing out small religious books and trying to save people from hell and we got into a conversation. He didn't appear to be crazy, and I think that even he realized what he had said and was a little put off by it as well. Nonetheless, I think he stuck by it because he thought that he just had to say it for argument sake. I made him promise me that he wouldn't kill his son before I left though.
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Re: What's the battiest thing you ever heard a believer say?

#54  Postby katja z » Apr 28, 2010 7:52 pm

Tbickle wrote:
katja z wrote:
Tbickle wrote:I had someone tell me that he would kill his son if God asked him to.

:what: This is a joke, right? :nono:


Nope.

Wow, what a piece of work is a man ... :shock: I pity this guy's children, I really do.

He was a guy handing out small religious books and trying to save people from hell and we got into a conversation. He didn't appear to be crazy,

Hmmm ... you mean apart from saying he'd kill his son?

and I think that even he realized what he had said and was a little put off by it as well. Nonetheless, I think he stuck by it because he thought that he just had to say it for argument sake. I made him promise me that he wouldn't kill his son before I left though.

Well that's a relief! You did well :thumbup: I hope it got him thinking ...
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Re: What's the battiest thing you ever heard a believer say?

#55  Postby Tbickle » Apr 28, 2010 7:57 pm

Well that's a relief! You did well :thumbup: I hope it got him thinking ...


Well, I guess what I meant by not appearing crazy, was that he didn't appear to be suffering from some form of mental illness. I hope it had an effect and at least got him thinking, it appeared that it may have hit a nerve with him. After I left him I met someone and had a quick meal right across the street and he was gone 15 minutes later when I came out. I don't know if he had to go, if he was done for the day, but I hope that it made him ponder enough to walk away for a minute to think it over.
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Re: What's the battiest thing you ever heard a believer say?

#56  Postby Gawdzilla » Apr 28, 2010 8:17 pm

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Re: What's the battiest thing you ever heard a believer say?

#57  Postby debunk » Apr 28, 2010 8:19 pm

I've had a conversation with a creationist once where he made the following claims:

    - Bats are indeed birds
    - Without trees there wouldn't be any oxygen
    - Comets propel themselves by burning fuel
The beatings will continue until morale improves.
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Re: What's the battiest thing you ever heard a believer say?

#58  Postby blasphemer_number1 » May 01, 2010 2:25 am

Tbickle wrote:
Well that's a relief! You did well :thumbup: I hope it got him thinking ...


Well, I guess what I meant by not appearing crazy, was that he didn't appear to be suffering from some form of mental illness. I hope it had an effect and at least got him thinking, it appeared that it may have hit a nerve with him. After I left him I met someone and had a quick meal right across the street and he was gone 15 minutes later when I came out. I don't know if he had to go, if he was done for the day, but I hope that it made him ponder enough to walk away for a minute to think it over.

He probably didn't realize it, but he was suffering from the god delusion.
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Re: What's the battiest thing you ever heard a believer say?

#59  Postby Enoch » May 01, 2010 10:19 am

Tbickle wrote:I had someone tell me that he would kill his son if God asked him to. That pretty much ended our conversation.


Lol, I know how Fundies can explain that away and still make themselves seem less wacko.

One Xtian said to me after I quizzed him on the question of "would you kill if God told you to?"

"Well, you have to find out if it is 'scriptural'. And since God doesn't ask anyone to do that in the bible, then it is obviously the devil trying trick you."

Me: "Um what about Abraham and Isaac? Jericho? Sodom and Gomor..."
Fundie cutting off: "Oh no, no, no, these are OLD, after Jesus came, God never demands those things."

Me: "..."
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Re: What's the battiest thing you ever heard a believer say?

#60  Postby heyjude » May 01, 2010 10:42 am

HughMcB wrote:"God sees everything"
"Well did he watch me wank off last night?"
"No of course not"
"But I thought that God is omnipresent, he can't not be there at the time, maybe he had his eyes closed *sarcastically*"
"Don't be an ass, maybe he was there so"
"Good.... that just makes it kinkier"


Yay.. love it :D that pervy ole god!
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