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Re: What's the battiest thing you ever heard an atheist say?

#221  Postby epete » Apr 08, 2013 2:25 pm

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Re: What's the battiest thing you ever heard an atheist say?

#222  Postby jamest » Apr 08, 2013 10:37 pm

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jamest wrote:I like being called a mug. It makes me sound innocent.


You like being called a Mug? :shock:

Do you know what it actually means? If you do, I'd be surprised that you were telling the truth with that comment...

I was making light of the moment. Truth is, I don't really give a fuck either way.
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Re: What's the battiest thing you ever heard an atheist say?

#223  Postby epete » Apr 09, 2013 12:49 am

I wondering when the moderators are going to act on it?
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Re: What's the battiest thing you ever heard an atheist say?

#224  Postby jamest » Apr 09, 2013 1:31 am

epete wrote:I wondering when the moderators are going to act on it?

Fuck me, this place is turning into a nursery. Nobody should get a warning unless a 'victim' complains. There are no victims here, squire.
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Re: What's the battiest thing you ever heard an atheist say?

#225  Postby epete » Apr 09, 2013 2:02 am

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Re: What's the battiest thing you ever heard an atheist say?

#226  Postby redwhine » Apr 09, 2013 7:06 am

epete wrote:I wondering when the moderators are going to act on it?

How do you know they haven't?

They issue modnotes to inform of advisories and official warnings. Are you seriously suggesting they should add a modnote saying "This post has been vetted and found within the auspices of the FUA." to every single post where a warning is not issued? :crazy:

There was no personal attack in the post in question. Whilst James and myself could hardly be classed as bosom buddies, he seems to be the only one speaking sense regards this matter (apart from yours truly, of course ;) ) Kudos, James; I applaud your attitude.
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Re: What's the battiest thing you ever heard an atheist say?

#227  Postby epete » Apr 09, 2013 7:09 am

Of course it was a personal attack. And quite a few other people think so too. But as long as jamest is happy to get called a mug, then more power to him! :cheers:
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Re: What's the battiest thing you ever heard an atheist say?

#228  Postby redwhine » Apr 09, 2013 7:29 am

epete wrote:Of course it was a personal attack. And quite a few other people think so too. But as long as jamest is happy to get called a mug, then more power to him! :cheers:

Wrong. Warnings are awarded on the basis of breaches of the FUA, and not on whether the supposed target feels umbrage or not. It don't matter a monkey's toss whether James is happy or not.

ETA; Your argumentum ad populum is a logical fallacy, even if it was supported by actual names of your fellow thinkers (which it isn't).
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Re: What's the battiest thing you ever heard an atheist say?

#229  Postby epete » Apr 09, 2013 7:32 am

The point is, I'm less likely to care if he doesn't care. It certainly was a personal attack, but if jamest has no problem with it, then I have no problem with it.
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Re: What's the battiest thing you ever heard an atheist say?

#230  Postby redwhine » Apr 09, 2013 7:44 am

redwhine wrote:
jamest wrote:The shysters keep quoting me out of context and stuff, and are making me look like a mug.

Wrong. You need no help to that end. You are a past master at it.


James wrote, "The shysters keep quoting me out of context and stuff, and are making me look like a mug."

1) The only possible personal attack in that post is where James calls (unspecified) forum members 'shysters'.

2) James clearly states that they are making him look LIKE a mug and not that they have proved that he is one. My response was to that comment. (Had I placed a ;) or :lol: at the end, I doubt this ridiculous derail would have ever happened.)

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Re: What's the battiest thing you ever heard an atheist say?

#231  Postby epete » Apr 09, 2013 7:45 am

Mental gymnastics. Gold medal. :tehe:
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Re: What's the battiest thing you ever heard an atheist say?

#232  Postby Reeve » Apr 13, 2013 3:32 am

Some fucking idiot on JREF wrote:Perhaps what I am actually saying is that I loathe philosophizing.

I'm a firm believer that if you can't say something in a paragraph you are talking out of you ass. There is no concept so complex that a cliff note version can't be expressed to a laymen in 4 or 5 sentences (give or take). Meandering mumbo jumbo drives me bonkers. (especially when it's used to attempt to turn physics or astronomy into Jesus )


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Re: What's the battiest thing you ever heard an atheist say?

#233  Postby Calilasseia » Apr 13, 2013 6:16 am

Reeve wrote:
Some fucking idiot on JREF wrote:Perhaps what I am actually saying is that I loathe philosophizing.

I'm a firm believer that if you can't say something in a paragraph you are talking out of you ass. There is no concept so complex that a cliff note version can't be expressed to a laymen in 4 or 5 sentences (give or take). Meandering mumbo jumbo drives me bonkers. (especially when it's used to attempt to turn physics or astronomy into Jesus )


Not heard, but read obviously.


Despite the parlous literacy of the above quote, I would say that to an extent, that individual did have something resembling a point. After all, if it's possible to explain the fundamental concepts of something as abstract as string theory to a lay audience (a task that the BBC Horizon TV series succeeded in performing on more than one occasion), then it should be possible for those with genuinely robust ideas to express them, without having to resort to vast swathes of convoluted semantic sophistry.

Of course, genuine philosophers, as opposed to mere assertionists posturing as such, are capable of this. I'm reminded here of some of Kierkegaard's early existentialist work, and his succinct clarion call for the elevation of the "common man" to the "uncommon man". But he was, in this instance, simply stating a notion that most here would eminently agree with, namely, that we should be striving to educate as many as possible, stretching their minds, and encouraging them to rise intellectually above their origins. I consider myself extremely fortunate indeed, that I was possibly amongst the last to experience such resolute pursuit of education as a calling in my youth.
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Re: What's the battiest thing you ever heard an atheist say?

#234  Postby redwhine » Apr 13, 2013 7:34 am

"The BBC is editorially independent of government."

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Censorship now, to add to the bias and revisionism.

How are a shower of such clueless unrepresentative and unpopular wankers able to poison so many of our great institutions during the brief period of office leading up to their return to long-term irrelevance?


So you're blaming the coalition for this, without a shred of evidence, and even after numerous Tory and Lib Dem MPs have come out and said it should be played?

The BBC is editorially independent of government. You ought to take your venomously deceitful accusations to the Conspiracy Theories forum, where they will sit well alongside the secret lizards and Joos did 9/11 claptrap.
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Re: What's the battiest thing you ever heard an atheist say?

#235  Postby LucidFlight » Apr 13, 2013 7:40 am

:lol: Oh, those atheists with their silly ideas!
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Re: What's the battiest thing you ever heard an atheist say?

#236  Postby hackenslash » Apr 25, 2013 5:45 am

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Re: What's the battiest thing you ever heard an atheist say?

#237  Postby Rumraket » Apr 25, 2013 8:46 am

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Re: What's the battiest thing you ever heard an atheist say?

#238  Postby Rumraket » Apr 25, 2013 8:49 am

Supposedly A4H is an "agnostic", he doesn't believe in god, which makes him atheist to everyone but him. I guess every post he ever made could fit well in this thread.
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Re: What's the battiest thing you ever heard an atheist say?

#239  Postby scott1328 » May 05, 2013 4:03 pm

This seemed like as good a place as any to post this

PZ Myers : I wii no longer consider myself a "skeptic"
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Re: What's the battiest thing you ever heard an atheist say?

#240  Postby Thomas Eshuis » May 05, 2013 5:25 pm

scott1328 wrote:This seemed like as good a place as any to post this

PZ Myers : I wii no longer consider myself a "skeptic"

I feel a new movement coming up; skepticism+.
I love how these people consider themselves intellectually superior to atheist/skeptics, while they themselves continuously and consistently commit the conflation fallacy when criticising their atheist and skeptic peers.
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