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Another victim of the scientific human enterprize or anti-ma

#1  Postby aufbahrung » Aug 03, 2019 11:15 am

Was this a lesser Aaron Swartz or Meds driven? :popcorn:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9646273/a ... nish-work/
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#2  Postby Spearthrower » Aug 03, 2019 11:20 am

Wut?
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#3  Postby aufbahrung » Aug 03, 2019 11:33 am

Spearthrower wrote:Wut?


Found this ol' article might be relevant?

https://www.theguardian.com/higher-educ ... udy-health
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#4  Postby Spearthrower » Aug 03, 2019 11:37 am

Among the galaxies of possible discussion points, would you like to draw some kind of line, explain some kind of thought, establish something tangible to discuss?
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#5  Postby aufbahrung » Aug 03, 2019 11:47 am

Spearthrower wrote:Among the galaxies of possible discussion points, would you like to draw some kind of line, explain some kind of thought, establish something tangible to discuss?


Perhaps the way science is progressing right now, whilst not being nazi science, is actually contributing to various woes from stress induced suicide all the way up to climate change (with so many scientists & engineers working or being trained to work for the petro-chemical industry..) Discussing if and why it has gone wrong, gone wrong if not by definition then by current direction and impact on human good might be a discussion of value?
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#6  Postby Hermit » Aug 03, 2019 11:57 am

Spearthrower wrote:Among the galaxies of possible discussion points, would you like to draw some kind of line, explain some kind of thought, establish something tangible to discuss?

Still trying to decode Crumplese? O dear. After another 18,000 of his posts you'll be none the wiser. I suggest you give up now. Regard aufbahrung as one of this forum's quaint furniture instead. It'll save you a lot of futile effort and help you to simply enjoy his Delphian output.
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#7  Postby Spearthrower » Aug 03, 2019 12:54 pm

aufbahrung wrote:
Perhaps the way science is progressing right now,...


Is it meant to progress some other way? If science is discovering how nature works, then 'progress' means discovering more of how it works, not some other way of working.


aufbahrung wrote:... whilst not being nazi science,


There's no 'nazi science'.


aufbahrung wrote:... is actually contributing to various woes from stress induced suicide all the way up to climate change...


Ever since humanity first picked up a rock, that rock could've been used to break bones to more readily extract marrow, or to smash someone's skull in. Blaming tools for the way we use them seem like muddled thinking to me.


aufbahrung wrote: (with so many scientists & engineers working or being trained to work for the petro-chemical industry..)


Because of the demand from society for petrochemical products.


aufbahrung wrote:Discussing if and why it has gone wrong, gone wrong if not by definition then by current direction and impact on human good might be a discussion of value?


To whom?

It's a bit hard to imagine how much value's going to occur when the someone proposing the discussion smuggles in all manner of muddled thinking from the outset.

If you want to talk about the usage of knowledge and its impact on society, then science isn't where you should be pointing your confused ire: that would be politics and society.
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#8  Postby Spearthrower » Aug 03, 2019 12:55 pm

Hermit wrote:
Still trying to decode Crumplese? O dear. After another 18,000 of his posts you'll be none the wiser. I suggest you give up now. Regard aufbahrung as one of this forum's quaint furniture instead. It'll save you a lot of futile effort and help you to simply enjoy his Delphian output.



There's always the possibility that his time here will help to address the obfuscated thinking he is, apparently, synonymous with.
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#9  Postby Spearthrower » Aug 03, 2019 12:59 pm

https://listverse.com/2016/12/02/10-hor ... homicides/

10 Horrifying Hammer Homicides.

Perhaps the way metallurgy is progressing right now, whilst not being nazi metallurgy, is actually contributing to various woes from homicide all the way up to climate change (with so many scientists & engineers working or being trained to work for the metallurgy industry..) Discussing if and why it has gone wrong, gone wrong if not by definition then by current direction and impact on human good might be a discussion of value?
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#10  Postby Spearthrower » Aug 03, 2019 1:05 pm

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-new ... ed-1901465

Disabled pensioner dragged from mobility scooter and mauled to death by crazed donkeys.


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29727315

Autopsy Features of Fatal Donkey Attack.


https://www.livescience.com/22830-mayor ... ttack.html

Texas Mayor Killed by Donkey


Perhaps the way zoology is progressing right now, whilst not being nazi zoology, is actually contributing to various woes from maulings through to methane production (with so many scientists working or being trained to work in the biological industries..) Discussing if and why it has gone wrong, gone wrong if not by definition then by current direction and impact on human good might be a discussion of value?


Are we getting it yet? If not, I can be here all night.
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#11  Postby Spearthrower » Aug 03, 2019 1:09 pm

1 last point that needs to be addressed. Let's imagine for a moment that the victim had some unfortunate reaction to antimalarials (which apparently isn't the case) and consequently that her death can be directly ascribed to the usage of that drug. Surely that needs to be put into the context of the number of people who are saved from malaria each year, who don't have tragically shortened life spans ending writing in agony. So even at the work case reading, it's still 1 death compared to... tens of millions of lives saved?
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#12  Postby laklak » Aug 03, 2019 2:47 pm

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There's no 'nazi science'.


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#13  Postby Spearthrower » Aug 03, 2019 2:53 pm

Nazi aerodynamics - doesn't work according to Newton's Laws of Motion and the Bernoilli Principle, but is rather powered by a deep aversion of racial miscegenation and the uplifting principles of pan-German nationalism.
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#14  Postby laklak » Aug 03, 2019 2:56 pm

Besides, those scientists only joined The Party for business reasons.
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#15  Postby Hermit » Aug 03, 2019 3:00 pm

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#16  Postby LucidFlight » Aug 03, 2019 3:03 pm

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Spearthrower wrote:
There's no 'nazi science'.


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#17  Postby Hermit » Aug 03, 2019 3:06 pm

LucidFlight wrote:
laklak wrote:
Spearthrower wrote:
There's no 'nazi science'.

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You can see its right wing.

That's where the altimeter is installed, which makes it the alt-right wing.
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#18  Postby aufbahrung » Aug 03, 2019 3:35 pm

There's no alt-right in atheism either.

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/3k7j ... -alt-right
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#19  Postby Spearthrower » Aug 03, 2019 3:40 pm

There are also no tap-dancing fish.
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#20  Postby aufbahrung » Aug 03, 2019 3:48 pm

Spearthrower wrote:There are also no tap-dancing fish.


There are black swans, but not with atheism because that would turn them into agnostics. :think:
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