You're in the wrong thread then.

Scot Dutchy wrote:No Mac never allowed you to do anything. Open the machine up and bingo it would not work anymore.

I use a distro called NixOS, but the package manager can be used on any Linux and on Mac. Google Nix package manager.

This package manager doesn't need you to be root to install anything. Everything a user installs goes into its own environment, so as not to clobber other user installs. If users happen to want the same package installed, it will be shared between them. If users need incompatible versions of the same package installed, both will be installed without screwing up any dependency graphs.Users are prevented from borking the system because the package manager runs as a daemon with root privileges. Even so, software is built by a special non privileged user before being copied into the isolated environment by the daemon, so the system is protected from broken installers. Finally, with packages so isolated, no junk is left behind by uninstalling or obliterating nix entirely.

It's a pity you folk are still using outdated UNIX practices which cripple users by requiring root for non root tasks. But then, I hear your machines are quite shiny. (snark aside, I advise any mac devs to install and have a play with nix. It will happily sit alongside the rest of your Mac software)

Scot Dutchy wrote:
Can you replace an iPhone battery or add an extra memory chip?

You sure can replace batteries. A simple Google search will find you the kit and youtube will puppy walk you through the procedure. Sure it's not as simple as on some phones and will bollocks your warranty but it's doable.

My Sony experia won't let me in to change battery because it's all water sealed, unless I buy the kit and crack the seal. It ain't just apple being all precious. It's design led innovation making phones do clever shit like letting you drop them down toilets without killing the phone like you used to.

monkeyboy wrote:

Scot Dutchy wrote:
Can you replace an iPhone battery or add an extra memory chip?

You sure can replace batteries. A simple Google search will find you the kit and youtube will puppy walk you through the procedure. Sure it's not as simple as on some phones and will bollocks your warranty but it's doable.

My Sony experia won't let me in to change battery because it's all water sealed, unless I buy the kit and crack the seal. It ain't just apple being all precious. It's design led innovation making phones do clever shit like letting you drop them down toilets without killing the phone like you used to.

Yup, same with my Samsung and most recent Androids are as problematic as iPhones when it comes to replacing batteries. As to extra memory, I've still only used about 11% of my elderly 60Gig iPod and that's a whole week of music.

Scot Dutchy wrote:In the office my machine was never closed as I was always changing and adding to it. Things were changing so fast then and my company never made any problem about what we bought. We had also a couple of standard machines to test on. You could never do that with Apple.

Jesus. Why the hell would you want to?

I’ve worked as an IT engineer professionally since before it was called IT.

Clearly, your office never heard of the concept of configuration control. Unless your work is nothing but fucking around with computers, that isn’t what the rest of the business world does with them. Time fucking around with employees’ computers isn’t time they spend working.


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monkeyboy wrote:

Scot Dutchy wrote:
Can you replace an iPhone battery or add an extra memory chip?

You sure can replace batteries. A simple Google search will find you the kit and youtube will puppy walk you through the procedure. Sure it's not as simple as on some phones and will bollocks your warranty but it's doable.

My Sony experia won't let me in to change battery because it's all water sealed, unless I buy the kit and crack the seal. It ain't just apple being all precious. It's design led innovation making phones do clever shit like letting you drop them down toilets without killing the phone like you used to.

Yup, same with my Samsung and most recent Androids are as problematic as iPhones when it comes to replacing batteries. As to extra memory, I've still only used about 11% of my elderly 60Gig iPod and that's a whole week of music.

Yeah, battery reliability has improved dramatically, so much so that it injects more failures into the system to make them user-replaceable, than it does to hardware them into the device.

They don’t do this for fun, or to fuck with people. They do it because it’s a quantifiable and real benefit to reliability.

For fuck sakes, my two original iPhone 4 phones still work just fine. We upgraded to the iPhone 6, but I kept the old ones. I pop them onto a charger every few months, to keep the batteries from full self-discharge. Anyone need one?

As for memory, looks like there are three models of iMac that don’t have user replaceable memory. Most do. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201191. I crammed my iMacs with all the ram they would hold. That’s all I’ve ever done to “upgrade” them. I didn’t bother to measure memory utilization to see if any running applications were running short. RAM isn’t expensive.

This sort of defense of one’s choices of toys, is getting pretty fucking old, Scot. Why don’t you go start a topic to discuss your hatred? This topic exists to share tips and tricks.


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Let’s end this:

If you can show some studies comparing total cost of ownership, we can pick up that discussion. In another god damned topic.


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Scot Dutchy wrote:

The_Metatron wrote:

Scot Dutchy wrote:In the office my machine was never closed as I was always changing and adding to it. Things were changing so fast then and my company never made any problem about what we bought. We had also a couple of standard machines to test on. You could never do that with Apple.

Jesus. Why the hell would you want to?

I’ve worked as an IT engineer professionally since before it was called IT.

Clearly, your office never heard of the concept of configuration control. Unless your work is nothing but fucking around with computers, that isn’t what the rest of the business world does with them. Time fucking around with employees’ computers isn’t time they spend working.


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This was in the very beginning. Who had a LAN in those days? We were not a software house. You are talking twenty years down the line. My work was development. They were glory days. "In the land of the blind, one eye was king".
So I had a great and easy time. Profits were there for the taking. Plenty of people looking for this new fangled software. If you were really into computers at the very beginning you would understand Jesse.

Being into them and operating enterprise IT networks are not the same thing.

You ever try to support 4000 desktop computers on a campus LAN?


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Here’s where anyone can tell us how much they hate Apple products, and maybe why.

Have fun.


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Pff. What is it you've got again?