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#1  Postby Macdoc » Oct 13, 2019 8:10 pm

Interesting ...but not quite right...leisure time eh ....yeah right ... :roll:

In 1983, American writer Isaac Asimov wrote that by 2019, “It is quite likely that society, then, will have entered a phase that may be more or less permanently improved over the situation as it now exists.”
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35 years ago, Isaac Asimov was asked by the Star to predict the world of 2019. Here is what he wrote


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#2  Postby Hermit » Oct 13, 2019 11:34 pm

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#3  Postby Ironclad » Oct 14, 2019 5:36 am

Doesn't really need reading eh. Asimov.. don't know nuffink
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#4  Postby Macdoc » Oct 14, 2019 7:00 am

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10 predictions that Isaac Asimov got right 50 years ago (and 5 that he botched)


https://www.digitaltrends.com/cool-tech ... 5-botched/
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#5  Postby aufbahrung » Oct 14, 2019 11:07 am

Liked the original foundation trilogy. The paperbacks in panther books I grew up on. Would be nice to reproduce them accurately in terms of paper quality and original styling.
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#6  Postby Svartalf » Oct 14, 2019 11:48 am

I still wait for my philosophical sexbot with a positronic brain.
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#7  Postby felltoearth » Oct 14, 2019 11:56 am

What will the future be like?
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#8  Postby newolder » Oct 14, 2019 12:00 pm

I may be way off here (as usual) but I've come to imagine felltoearth as some kind of an architect. Don't know why or how. :dunno:

Anyhoo, happy caek day felltoearth. (Also, I guess the number should be 53 now...)

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#9  Postby felltoearth » Oct 14, 2019 12:36 pm

newolder wrote:I may be way off here (as usual) but I've come to imagine felltoearth as some kind of an architect. Don't know why or how. :dunno:

Anyhoo, happy caek day felltoearth. (Also, I guess the number should be 53 now...)

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Thanks, newolder! Yeah, I’m a landscape architect. You are what you eat.. looks yummy!
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#10  Postby lpetrich » Nov 01, 2019 3:11 am

10 predictions that Isaac Asimov got right 50 years ago (and 5 that he botched) | Digital Trends

“Gadgetry will continue to relieve mankind of tedious jobs. Kitchen units will be devised that will prepare ‘automeals,’ heating water and converting it to coffee; toasting bread; frying, poaching or scrambling eggs, grilling bacon, and so on. Breakfasts will be ‘ordered’ the night before to be ready by a specified hour the next morning.”

We are halfway there, it seems.

We can do a lot of that as TV dinners, by having machinery that does the preparation into a ready-to-heat form. But what IA described seems like one will need a programmable mechanical arm for one's kitchen.

“Communications will become sight-sound and you will see as well as hear the person you telephone. The screen can be used not only to see the people you call but also for studying documents and photographs and reading passages from books. Synchronous satellites, hovering in space will make it possible for you to direct-dial any spot on earth, including the weather stations in Antarctica.”

The Internet has made all of that possible. Video chatting is not very common, though text chatting is, something he didn't anticipate. However, it does not work by direct connections, but by forwarding data packets through routers.

“Men will continue to withdraw from nature in order to create an environment that will suit them better. By 2014, electroluminescent panels will be in common use. Ceilings and walls will glow softly, and in a variety of colors that will change at the touch of a push button.”

We are halfway there with flat-panel TV's. Glowing walls and ceilings are feasible, but they are not very common.

“Vehicles with ‘Robot-brains’ … can be set for particular destinations … that will then proceed there without interference by the slow reflexes of a human driver.”

Self-driving cars are starting out.

“The 2014 fair will feature an Algae Bar at which “mock-turkey” and “pseudosteak” will be served. It won’t be bad at all (if you can dig up those premium prices), but there will be considerable psychological resistance to such an innovation.”

There are now lots of vegetarian fake meats, fake milks, fake creams, fake cheeses, and fake eggs. Some of them have very meatlike features, like the Impossible Burger with its leghemoglobin, an iron-containing approximation of myoglobin, what makes red meat red.
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#11  Postby lpetrich » Nov 01, 2019 11:38 am

“The world of A.D. 2014 will have few routine jobs that cannot be done better by some machine than by any human being. Mankind will therefore have become largely a race of machine tenders. Schools will have to be oriented in this direction…. All the high-school students will be taught the fundamentals of computer technology will become proficient in binary arithmetic and will be trained to perfection in the use of the computer languages that will have developed out of those like the contemporary “Fortran.”

We aren't there yet. Human-scale artificial vision and dexterity continue to be difficult to duplicate.

Most people who program don't have to know any binary arithmetic to do so, though it's convenient for understanding ranges of integer values and the like. But most high-level languages have Fortran-like syntax. Fortran is a C-like language that is the original high-level language. So if you think that every high-level language resembles C or Java or Python or whatever, that's why it also resembles Fortran. If the differences seem great, try comparing them to assembly language - it's even more different.

“Wall screens will have replaced the ordinary set; but transparent cubes will be making their appearance in which three-dimensional viewing will be possible.”

We have flat-screen TV's and monitors, but we still don't have practical 3D viewing.

“Ordinary agriculture will keep up with great difficulty and there will be ‘farms’ turning to the more efficient micro-organisms. Processed yeast and algae products will be available in a variety of flavors.”

We're not there yet. The closest thing that comes to this goal is Quorn, made from vat-grown fungus.

“An experimental fusion-power plant or two will already exist in 2014. Large solar-power stations will also be in operation in a number of desert and semi-desert areas”

Controlled nuclear fusion continues to be VERY difficult. But photovoltaic cells have been surprisingly successful, and many of them have been installed on house and building roofs.

“… by 2014, only unmanned ships will have landed on Mars, though a manned expedition will be in the works and in the 2014 Futurama will show a model of an elaborate Martian colony.”

Pretty much correct.
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#12  Postby lpetrich » Nov 01, 2019 11:50 am

According to the article, the predictions that he didn't get quite right. I'll assess those also.

“Robots will neither be common nor very good in 2014, but they will be in existence.”

That's actually correct, though the "robots" are mostly mechanical arms and the like with little interactivity. But that is gradually changing.

“The appliances of 2014 will have no electric cords, of course, for they will be powered by long- lived batteries running on radioisotopes.”

That has not happened.

“Jets of compressed air will also lift land vehicles off the highways, which, among other things, will minimize paving problems. Smooth earth or level lawns will do as well as pavements. Bridges will also be of less importance, since cars will be capable of crossing water on their jets, though local ordinances will discourage the practice.”

That has not happened either. A big problem with such vehicles is their greater energy consumption -- they would need to be fueled much more often, and that would make their fuel costs much greater.

“The world population will be 6,500,000,000 and the population of the United States will be 350,000,000.” And later he warns that if the population growth continues unchecked, “All earth will be a single choked Manhattan by A.D. 2450 and society will collapse long before that!”

The numbers are rather close to the actual ones.

”The most glorious single word in the vocabulary will have become work!” in our ”a society of enforced leisure.”

Unfortunately, it's unemployment rather than affluent leisure.
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#13  Postby laklak » Nov 01, 2019 11:59 am

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#14  Postby Macdoc » Nov 01, 2019 1:38 pm

Closer than fusion
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#15  Postby Macdoc » Nov 01, 2019 2:47 pm

A few other movies set in the future ...Blade Runner notably predicted what 2019 would be like

Bladerunner was set today
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The future is now. Today, in fact, according to the 1982 sci-fi classic Blade Runner. But that film, and others made decades ago but set in 2019, get more wrong than they do right about our modern world.


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