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#21  Postby Doubtdispelled » Jan 15, 2012 1:50 pm

sennekuyl wrote:If I understood you correctly, they already can.
No, I meant a single atom for each 1 or 0 (referring to Twistor's answer that 1 would do for him).

sennekuyl wrote:It is just the mechanism to read and write is about the size of at least a kitchen table.
Aye. Takes me back, that does. I remember when the storage media was the size of a washing machine, and the printers a single decker bus.

Try getting those in your pocket.
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#22  Postby Scot Dutchy » Jan 15, 2012 2:02 pm

Doubtdispelled wrote:
sennekuyl wrote:If I understood you correctly, they already can.
No, I meant a single atom for each 1 or 0 (referring to Twistor's answer that 1 would do for him).

sennekuyl wrote:It is just the mechanism to read and write is about the size of at least a kitchen table.
Aye. Takes me back, that does. I remember when the storage media was the size of a washing machine, and the printers a single decker bus.

Try getting those in your pocket.


Those bloody memory packs for an IBM 360 were huge and heavy. I can remember how much memory it was.
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#23  Postby Doubtdispelled » Jan 15, 2012 2:12 pm

Scot Dutchy wrote:I can remember how much memory it was.
You can, or you can't? I can't, but I know it was not as much as my phone now has. 8-)
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#24  Postby Scot Dutchy » Jan 15, 2012 2:23 pm

Them were the days!

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The HDD RAMAC had 3.75 MB.

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#25  Postby Scot Dutchy » Jan 15, 2012 2:24 pm

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#26  Postby Calilasseia » Jan 15, 2012 2:52 pm

Oh, this prototype read/write system is impressive, but it'll even more impressive if they can miniaturise it to the point where the read-write system will fit into, say, a matchbox. A solid state hard drive the size of a matchbox, storing an exabyte of data or more, will really be something special.
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#27  Postby susu.exp » Jan 15, 2012 4:18 pm

Knowing somebody who is a grad student at another of the "elite physics laboratories" engaged in the international race allows me to give their entirely unofficial reaction to this: "Meh!" And bit more profound: "It retains data for how long?" and "at what temperature did they do it?", basically the main issues with making data storage smaller.
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#28  Postby spitfire7 » Jan 15, 2012 5:33 pm

susu.exp wrote:Knowing somebody who is a grad student at another of the "elite physics laboratories" engaged in the international race allows me to give their entirely unofficial reaction to this: "Meh!" And bit more profound: "It retains data for how long?" and "at what temperature did they do it?", basically the main issues with making data storage smaller.

:lol: Those were basically my two questions upon reading this as well. Like I said, scientists have already found that some materials hold magnetic charge on a molecular level, but its at only a few degrees Kelvin and for very short periods of time. I was hoping they had somehow overcome those limitations, but not sure.
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#29  Postby sennekuyl » Jan 15, 2012 8:05 pm

I understood that the storage was stable at 12 atoms, but had to be <5K

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#30  Postby Calilasseia » Jan 15, 2012 11:31 pm

What's the current state of the art with respect to 'high temperature' superconductors? Only it sounds to me as if we're dealing with a superconducting type phenomenon in this instance ...
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#31  Postby sennekuyl » Jan 17, 2012 2:32 am

>180K and it breaks down, I believe. Though that would have been an Ars Technica or Popular Science article that I surmised that number from, so it is probably much better than that.
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