Super-artificial intelligence, a naive, intriguing approach?

An intriguing mathematical encoding/basis of some paradigm in super-artificial intelligence.

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Re: Super-artificial intelligence, a naive, intriguing approach?

#121  Postby SafeAsMilk » Apr 21, 2017 11:09 am

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Yet your username, as well as your verbose and often incorrect use of English demonstrates a desire to present yourself as an intellectual.


Well, I have been referred to as smart by others.

Are you sure you're thinking of 'others'? Are you sure you aren't thinking of 'nobody'?

However, being smart is a typical human property.

That's debatable.

Anyway, the "God" in my username, is such that is redefined as follows:

Gee, big surprise, the whole thing is so you can call yourself God. I'm shocked, really.
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Re: Super-artificial intelligence, a naive, intriguing approach?

#122  Postby ProgrammingGodJordan » Apr 21, 2017 12:09 pm

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Gee, big surprise, the whole thing is so you can call yourself God. I'm shocked, really.


Not I alone, however.
The redefinition encompasses any regular human, including yourself.
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Re: Super-artificial intelligence, a naive, intriguing approach?

#123  Postby SafeAsMilk » Apr 21, 2017 2:14 pm

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Gee, big surprise, the whole thing is so you can call yourself God. I'm shocked, really.


Not I alone, however.
The redefinition encompasses any regular human, including yourself.

But specifically to include you. Shocking.
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Re: Super-artificial intelligence, a naive, intriguing approach?

#124  Postby ProgrammingGodJordan » Apr 21, 2017 2:32 pm

SafeAsMilk wrote:
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Gee, big surprise, the whole thing is so you can call yourself God. I'm shocked, really.


Not I alone, however.
The redefinition encompasses any regular human, including yourself.

But specifically to include you. Shocking.


Well, I am human, and the redefinition includes humans, so, not so shocking after all..
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Re: Super-artificial intelligence, a naive, intriguing approach?

#125  Postby SafeAsMilk » Apr 21, 2017 5:25 pm

ProgrammingGodJordan wrote:
SafeAsMilk wrote:
ProgrammingGodJordan wrote:
SafeAsMilk wrote:
Gee, big surprise, the whole thing is so you can call yourself God. I'm shocked, really.


Not I alone, however.
The redefinition encompasses any regular human, including yourself.

But specifically to include you. Shocking.


Well, I am human, and the redefinition includes humans programming simulations, so, not so shocking after all..

FIFY. Yes, given the pretentious blather that defines your posts, not shocking at all.
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Re: Super-artificial intelligence, a naive, intriguing approach?

#126  Postby Manticore » Apr 21, 2017 7:17 pm

SafeAsMilk wrote:
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SafeAsMilk wrote:
ProgrammingGodJordan wrote:

Not I alone, however.
The redefinition encompasses any regular human, including yourself.

But specifically to include you. Shocking.


Well, I am human, and the redefinition includes humans programming simulations, so, not so shocking after all..

FIFY. Yes, given the pretentious blather that defines your posts, not shocking at all.


Blather - that could be the word I'm looking for. I'd considered drivel, gibberish, twaddle, waffle, garbage, rubbish and poppycock. Blather - that would make him a blatherskite which is one of those wonderful words that should never have fallen into disuse.
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Re: Super-artificial intelligence, a naive, intriguing approach?

#127  Postby BWE » Apr 21, 2017 7:31 pm

So, before I read this whole thread, have you figured out how to apply any empirical tests or demonstrations of the hypothesis presented in the op?
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Re: Super-artificial intelligence, a naive, intriguing approach?

#128  Postby SafeAsMilk » Apr 21, 2017 8:38 pm

BWE wrote:So, before I read this whole thread, have you figured out how to apply any empirical tests or demonstrations of the hypothesis presented in the op?

Yes, the things he wants to call god, which shares no actual attributes with anything anyone calls a god, empirically exists. I suppose the test would be if the term became useful, but I think Thommo comprehensively covered why it isn't.
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Re: Super-artificial intelligence, a naive, intriguing approach?

#129  Postby ProgrammingGodJordan » Apr 22, 2017 12:09 am

SafeAsMilk wrote:
FIFY. Yes, given the pretentious blather that defines your posts, not shocking at all.


Manticore wrote:
Blather - that could be the word I'm looking for. I'd considered drivel, gibberish, twaddle, waffle, garbage, rubbish and poppycock. Blather - that would make him a blatherskite which is one of those wonderful words that should never have fallen into disuse.


Tell me, to begin, do any of you have any machine learning experience?

PS: If you are not yet familiar with machine learning, or manifolds, I cant deny the paper will perhaps appear (to you) like garbage/blather....
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Re: Super-artificial intelligence, a naive, intriguing approach?

#130  Postby ProgrammingGodJordan » Apr 22, 2017 12:16 am

BWE wrote:So, before I read this whole thread, have you figured out how to apply any empirical tests or demonstrations of the hypothesis presented in the op?


Empirical paradigms are contained in the source paper.

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PS: If you are not yet familiar with machine learning, or manifolds, I cant deny the paper will perhaps appear (to you) like garbage/blather....
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Re: Super-artificial intelligence, a naive, intriguing approach?

#131  Postby Thomas Eshuis » Apr 22, 2017 12:32 am

ProgrammingGodJordan wrote:
SafeAsMilk wrote:
FIFY. Yes, given the pretentious blather that defines your posts, not shocking at all.


Manticore wrote:
Blather - that could be the word I'm looking for. I'd considered drivel, gibberish, twaddle, waffle, garbage, rubbish and poppycock. Blather - that would make him a blatherskite which is one of those wonderful words that should never have fallen into disuse.


Tell me, to begin, do any of you have any machine learning experience?

Appeals to authority fallacies won't fly here either Jordan.

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PS: If you are not yet familiar with machine learning, or manifolds, I cant deny the paper will perhaps appear (to you) like garbage/blather....

You don't need that training to dissect the verbal diarrhea you keep regurgitating on this board.
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Re: Super-artificial intelligence, a naive, intriguing approach?

#132  Postby ProgrammingGodJordan » Apr 22, 2017 6:31 am

Thomas Eshuis wrote:Appeals to authority fallacies won't fly here either Jordan.


I wouldn't mind flying away from this planet of mostly stupid beings.


ProgrammingGodJordan wrote:
You don't need that training to dissect the verbal diarrhea you keep regurgitating on this board


I maintain that absent machine learning experience, the original post will appear (to you) like garbage/nonsense/blather.
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Re: Super-artificial intelligence, a naive, intriguing approach?

#133  Postby Thomas Eshuis » Apr 22, 2017 7:30 am

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Thomas Eshuis wrote:Appeals to authority fallacies won't fly here either Jordan.


I wouldn't mind flying away from this planet of mostly stupid beings.

And another personal attack.
Also if you're so bothered by stupid people, why keep posting on fora where you think the people are stupid?
Could it possibly be that you're just here to provide incredibly subpar trolling?

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You don't need that training to dissect the verbal diarrhea you keep regurgitating on this board

I maintain that absent machine learning experience, the original post will appear (to you) like garbage/nonsense/blather.

You can maintain any ammount of bullshit you want. It still won't fool people.
"Respect for personal beliefs = "I am going to tell you all what I think of YOU, but don't dare retort and tell what you think of ME because...it's my personal belief". Hmm. A bully's charter and no mistake."
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Re: Super-artificial intelligence, a naive, intriguing approach?

#134  Postby ProgrammingGodJordan » Apr 22, 2017 8:04 am

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You can maintain any ammount of bullshit you want. It still won't fool people.


I need not fool anyone.
It appears some here have already fooled themselves to believe their nonsense bound expressions.

This is partially why I invented non-beliefism, as a tool to avoid fooling myself..
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Re: Super-artificial intelligence, a naive, intriguing approach?

#135  Postby Thomas Eshuis » Apr 22, 2017 8:12 am

ProgrammingGodJordan wrote:
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I maintain that absent machine learning experience, the original post will appear (to you) like garbage/nonsense/blather.

You can maintain any ammount of bullshit you want. It still won't fool people.[/quote]

I need not fool anyone.[/quote]
Then why persist in trying to do so.

ProgrammingGodJordan wrote:It appears some here have already fooled themselves to believe their nonsense bound expressions.

Glad to see you're finally realising something about yourself.
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Re: Super-artificial intelligence, a naive, intriguing approach?

#136  Postby ProgrammingGodJordan » Apr 22, 2017 8:19 am

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Glad to see you're finally realising something about yourself.


Try to understand that as the inventor of nonbelieifsm, I lack belief in all things.

..but it is not a surprise that you failed to piece together that I was not referring to myself, when I mentioned that "some here have already fooled themselves to believe".
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Re: Super-artificial intelligence, a naive, intriguing approach?

#137  Postby Thomas Eshuis » Apr 22, 2017 8:21 am

ProgrammingGodJordan wrote:
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Glad to see you're finally realising something about yourself.


Try to understand that as the inventor of nonbelieifsm, I lack belief in all things.

That's impossible.

ProgrammingGodJordan wrote:..but it is not a surprise that you failed to piece together that I was not referring to myself, when I mentioned that "some here have already fooled themselves to believe".

Once again missing the point.
But hey, that's par for the course for trolls. :roll:
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Re: Super-artificial intelligence, a naive, intriguing approach?

#138  Postby ProgrammingGodJordan » Apr 22, 2017 8:28 am

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Try to understand that as the inventor of nonbelieifsm, I lack belief in all things.

That's impossible.


How is lack of belief in all things "impossible"?

Are you distraught because your mind is still blocked by the paradigm of belief?

In that case, there are many others here that enjoy being self-blocked, in the regime of belief.

They can accompany you, but not I...
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Re: Super-artificial intelligence, a naive, intriguing approach?

#139  Postby Manticore » Apr 22, 2017 8:31 am

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Tell me, to begin, do any of you have any machine learning experience?



I began learning programming in 1967 (FORTRAN). Eventually ended up spending 15 years teaching the subject. Nowadays it's just for my own entertainment (mainly C++ and bash - though I have a tendency to hack pretty well anything that doesn't work the way I want it to.)
I've messed around with neural networks and AI but could never summon up enough enthusiasm to make a career of either. I do quite a bit with evolutionary algorithms particularly in regard to aerofoil design.
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Re: Super-artificial intelligence, a naive, intriguing approach?

#140  Postby Thomas Eshuis » Apr 22, 2017 8:32 am

ProgrammingGodJordan wrote:
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Try to understand that as the inventor of nonbelieifsm, I lack belief in all things.

That's impossible.


How is lack of belief in all things "impossible"?

Because, in order to post on this site you need to believe a great many things:
That you exist.
That your computer exists.
That you can use said computer to access the internet.
That this site exists on said internet.
Etc, etc.

ProgrammingGodJordan wrote:Are you distraught because your mind is still blocked by the paradigm of belief?

In that case, there are many others here that enjoy being self-blocked, in the regime of belief.

They can accompany you, but not I...

More vapid, personalised trolling.
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