Thinking of going all Apple

PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn · **#241** by **PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn** » Jan 23, 2012 7:31 pm

Agrippina wrote:Yes, certainly is, I'm loving it. You have a launch pad with all your software arranged like on an iPad so you can easily find programs without looking in a folder, the dock can be reduced to only the ones you use all the time, you can also add documents to the launch pad so easily found. It saves every so often so you don't have to remember to save, and you can recall previously saved versions. Some of your software will have to be updated, and I think it's more stable. There's mission control, click on that all the open software comes up on the screen you can choose what you want without having to minimize. A whole lot of stuff. Good fun.

really?? eurgh, that sounds rather like what ubuntu did with unity..... fucking shite. I like menus, they cut out the clutter....
ok, android has that system, but thats designed for touchscreen use where menus are awkward by comparison (even with a stylus)

chairman bill · **#242** by **chairman bill** » Jan 23, 2012 7:31 pm

Nautilidae wrote:For those that have it: is it worth the money to upgrade to Mac OS X Lion?

Given the cost, about £25 in the UK, certainly is worth it.

infiniteentropy · **#243** by **infiniteentropy** » Jan 23, 2012 7:48 pm

PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn wrote:
Agrippina wrote:Yes, certainly is, I'm loving it. You have a launch pad with all your software arranged like on an iPad so you can easily find programs without looking in a folder, the dock can be reduced to only the ones you use all the time, you can also add documents to the launch pad so easily found. It saves every so often so you don't have to remember to save, and you can recall previously saved versions. Some of your software will have to be updated, and I think it's more stable. There's mission control, click on that all the open software comes up on the screen you can choose what you want without having to minimize. A whole lot of stuff. Good fun.

really?? eurgh, that sounds rather like what ubuntu did with unity..... fucking shite. I like menus, they cut out the clutter....
ok, android has that system, but thats designed for touchscreen use where menus are awkward by comparison (even with a stylus)

Launch pad & mission control can be used as little or as much as you like. It's not as much of a change as unity, it's an extra feature if you want it. I find with track pad it's great.

infiniteentropy · **#244** by **infiniteentropy** » Jan 23, 2012 7:49 pm

chairman bill wrote:
Nautilidae wrote:For those that have it: is it worth the money to upgrade to Mac OS X Lion?

Given the cost, about £25 in the UK, certainly is worth it.

compared to cost of an MS update well worth it

Macdoc · **#245** by **Macdoc** » Jan 23, 2012 7:52 pm

Most of our professional clients can't stand Lion ( nor can I ).

IF you are a heavy iOS user and want Cloud then maybe.

If not - then make sure you clone your 10.6.8 FIRST as there is no other way to get back to SnowLeopard.

We suggest cloning your existing drive to an external and test running Lion for some time before jumping.

You get what you pay for. :coffee:

Scar · **#246** by **Scar** » Jan 23, 2012 7:55 pm

I love Lion. Then again, it's my first ever experience with Mac OS. I think the multi-touch-centric UI tweaks are really great in terms of usability.

Macdoc · **#247** by **Macdoc** » Jan 23, 2012 8:07 pm

Yes - new users should be fine with Lion and those used to iOS

Lots of stuff in Lion is "too cute" for the rest of us

Scar · **#248** by **Scar** » Jan 23, 2012 8:39 pm

Macdoc wrote:Yes - new users should be fine with Lion and those used to iOS

Lots of stuff in Lion is "too cute" for the rest of us

Tsss, it's not like I am not a power user and a nerd, I just appreciate good UI design. From what I could gather about snow leopard, Lion is a big step in the right direction. I've been over pretty much any approach to UI from windows to countless linux distros and I just feel most comfortable with Lion right now.

LucidFlight · **#249** by **LucidFlight** » Jan 23, 2012 9:48 pm

Macdoc wrote:Yes - new users should be fine with Lion and those used to iOS

Lots of stuff in Lion is "too cute" for the rest of us

You know, the Hello Kitty desktop picture is optional.

Agrippina · **#250** by **Agrippina** » Jan 24, 2012 9:13 am

Scar wrote:I love Lion. Then again, it's my first ever experience with Mac OS. I think the multi-touch-centric UI tweaks are really great in terms of usability.

I agree. And yes you can use the mission control and launchpad if you want to, I've only just started using them because of using the iPad and iPhone it all feels the same, and the trackpad works like the touch screen on those devices. I'm waiting for the computer the lies on my desk and that i can use as a giant iPad. It's coming.

I particularly like not having to remember to save.

: Here's a screen shot from Mission Control; Screen Shot 2012-01-24 at 11.04.26 AM.png (963.77 KiB) Viewed 84 times

I have three pages in Launchpad, separated by type, OCD working there, things must be properly sorted.

Scar · **#251** by **Scar** » Jan 24, 2012 2:06 pm

I am puttin mission control to massive use. I find it extremely useful. It makes managing windows actually fun. Great stuff.

Agrippina · **#252** by **Agrippina** » Jan 24, 2012 2:49 pm

Scar wrote:I am puttin mission control to massive use. I find it extremely useful. It makes managing windows actually fun. Great stuff.

Yes, especially when I use two monitors. I like using two monitors, one to read and one to type, I'd like another two that would be fun.

Steve · **#253** by **Steve** » Jan 24, 2012 4:56 pm

I wasn't going to post this link when I read the diary, but what the hell.
Apple and Unbridled Capitalism

If you use Apple and have a conscience I think you need to do something to help the mess that has developed at Foxconn. My wife uses an Apple and I have a Toshiba laptop. Foxconn is not just Apples problem, but Apple has an image as a caring company. That image is a lie.

Imagine a world where sixteen hour days and .70¢ hr is the prevailing wage. Now imagine the company you worked for earned $10B in profit in 2010 and by all accounts will make $30B in profit in 2011. Now finally put yourself in a work setting where the chairman referred to the employees as "animals" and managing them gave him "a headache". The aforementioned chairman also hired a zoo keeper to give a 'peptalk' to his senior managers.

Scar · **#254** by **Scar** » Jan 24, 2012 5:01 pm

Steve wrote:I wasn't going to post this link when I read the diary, but what the hell.
Apple and Unbridled Capitalism

If you use Apple and have a conscience I think you need to do something to help the mess that has developed at Foxconn. My wife uses an Apple and I have a Toshiba laptop. Foxconn is not just Apples problem, but Apple has an image as a caring company. That image is a lie.

Imagine a world where sixteen hour days and .70¢ hr is the prevailing wage. Now imagine the company you worked for earned $10B in profit in 2010 and by all accounts will make $30B in profit in 2011. Now finally put yourself in a work setting where the chairman referred to the employees as "animals" and managing them gave him "a headache". The aforementioned chairman also hired a zoo keeper to give a 'peptalk' to his senior managers.

Do they? I never thought of them as a particularly good company at all.

Agrippina · **#255** by **Agrippina** » Jan 24, 2012 5:02 pm

I don't think very highly of any big corporation, no matter who they are.

I'm With Stupid · **#256** by **I'm With Stupid** » Jan 24, 2012 5:04 pm

Steve wrote:If you use Apple and have a conscience I think you need to do something to help the mess that has developed at Foxconn. My wife uses an Apple and I have a Toshiba laptop. Foxconn is not just Apples problem, but Apple has an image as a caring company. That image is a lie.

Since when? I don't remember a single example of them caring about anything other than their own profits.

But yeah, Foxconn really need to be fucked over by all of these big computer companies. Dell use them quite a bit too. Unfortunately, I'm guessing their business customers are less likely to give a shit. It's also quite difficult to boycott them, because without opening up your computer, you can't tell where the components were manufactured.

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