Well, now. Fat Makes You Fat. Who'd have thunk it.

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Re: Well, now. Fat Makes You Fat. Who'd have thunk it.

#21  Postby Alan B » Jul 26, 2018 7:47 pm

Macdoc wrote:The only simple equation for an individual whose weight is stable ...more exercise will reduce your weight to a point tho in some cases weight can go up if you put on a lot of muscle even tho body fat may drop dramatically

And, of course, this is where BMI comes a cropper. It doesn't take into account muscle mass - it assumes body fat only.
I did look into something called ABSI - 'A Body Shape Index', but this relied upon statistical data for the US only. The data for the UK and other countries was not available in the format required. See here and here.

I'm not sure if any improvement has been made since I looked into this about three years ago. It uses BMI and waist measurement, which seems more obvious.
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Re: Well, now. Fat Makes You Fat. Who'd have thunk it.

#22  Postby Mike_L » Jul 27, 2018 6:37 pm

There is a formula that allows one to calculate an estimate of one's percentage body fat, based on BMI (body mass index)...

Body mass index (BMI) calculated from weight and height, as described here...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_mass_index

Estimate of body fat percentage (as derived from BMI) described here...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_fat_percentage#From_BMI

Of course, this approach gives only an estimate of % body fat.
The Wikipedia article describes how accurate measures are obtained, but these require specialised equipment (calipers, immersion tanks, machine that measures bioelectrical impedance, and so on).

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#23  Postby laklak » Jul 27, 2018 9:21 pm

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#24  Postby Rachel Bronwyn » Jul 28, 2018 2:36 pm

Or just eat less.

Or don't. It's your body.
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#25  Postby PensivePenny » Sep 12, 2018 3:58 pm

As pointed out, everyone metabolizes differently... anyone who doesn't think so hasn't hit middle age yet.

I always had a high metabolism and could (and did) eat damn near anything I wanted without gaining an ounce. Changed age group, but not eating enthusiasm and I gained more weight than I care to admit. A few months back, I was motivated to diet by a recent development of peripheral neuropathy. After seeing a bunch of doctors who told me there is nothing to do, I decided to stop eating carbs. Later, I found out what I was doing was essentially the "keto" diet, high fat/protein and very low carb. Exercise is difficult because of the neuropathy, but I still lost 10 pounds a month... for about 4 months when I relaxed the diet a bit. Now, I realize this is anecdotal, but it was a eye opener for me. What I noticed is that carbs (for me) had the affect others have attributed to fat... namely, a need for more. I get more of a high from sugar than bacon grease. When I cut out the carbs, I was surprised that I rarely felt hungry even though I was consuming less than 1000 calories almost every day. And THAT was the secret formula. If eating fewer carbs and filling up on protein, fat and fiber make you feel full, then that's your ticket. If eating less fat and filling up on carbs makes you feel full and you eat fewer calories, then that's your ticket.

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ETA: And I used to be in the Life-is-short-eat-what-you-want camp... but diabetes is a bitch. It's a fucked up cruel way to die, burning feet, numb fingers, blindness etc. I'd much prefer clogged arteries and a massive coronary. Go bacon!
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#26  Postby laklak » Sep 12, 2018 5:11 pm

Hi penny, haven't seen you around for a while.

I agree, massive coronary or big fuck off stoke. Felled like an ox is the way to go. My Dad dealt with that Type 2 shit for years, then on the insulin and they're shaving bits of his feet off every couple of months. Eventually he ate his gun, and I don't blame him one bit.
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#27  Postby PensivePenny » Sep 12, 2018 5:43 pm

Hey Lak... sent you a PM... It has been a while... I get bored and stop by once a year or so.

Your dad's sounds like my future. I'll probably not wait for parts being whittled off.
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