Pebble wrote:Cito di Pense wrote: I think we just believe in diversity because it pleases us to do so, or invent a measure of diversity and apply it so that the statistics come out confirming our biases. So it goes in politics.
..... They help us come to terms with what has already happened, much the way religion does, but pulling fewer rabbits out of fewer hats. Parsimony is wonderful, innit?
Given that diversity is to a significant degree another word for tolerance, then it has a rather longer history. Without tolerance, the powerful determine what expression is acceptable - there is sufficient information from the past to determine that that is not the optimal state of man.
What part of diversity do you believe is superfluous and why?
I thought about trying to answer you, but your question doesn't seem to have much to do with the rest of your little diatribe, so I guess I'll just lecture you right back. What makes you think there's an 'optimal state of man'? What you mean is, "If Mama ain't happy, ain't
nobody happy!" Go ahead and bring philosophy into this, but unless you have a really good answer for that, fuck philosophy, OK? When you do that, then I can tell you why you're not making an argument in favor of diversity except by pulling it out of your arse, the way philosophy is usually done by folks like you. If you want to head us all toward absolute morality and an 'optimal state of man', go the fuck back to church, if you ain't already there.
And for your delectation, 'tolerance' mainly involves any politics short of active suppression to outcompete some other group you can identify. What you seem to want to talk about is 'affirmative action'. You can't lecture somebody on diversity without being a bit of a racist/sexist/ageist or whatever-ist.
Pebble wrote:Without tolerance, the powerful determine what expression is acceptable
Expression? Is that what you're on about? Whatever happened to "a chicken in every pot"?
Grub first, then ethics.Pebble wrote:then it has a rather longer history.
Longer history than what? Want to make an argument? Don't talk in shorthand. I'd love to hear a good argument for diversity, tolerance, peace, love, and dope that didn't involve either god or someone's personal fee-fees. No matter what you do, somebody's always going to be the one bringing up the rear of the parade. Technology has done more to liberate people from sheer drudgery than all the philosophy in the library.